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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 22:07
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What was your reason for leaving 22, or even 21?
I left 21 after six years as my very new wife was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 22:15
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I've been reading lots of his posts on Health and Safety for Beginners - There is no such thing as a "stupid" or "daft" health and safety question!

It would seem that he left the RAF 13 years before 2009 (ie. 1996) - so why is he wearing his Sgt Airman Aircrew rank tabs some 18 years later in 2014!

Also, he talks about being a SAR medic in some threads and then asks where he can get qualified to teach a First Aid at Work course in another!

Still smells of poisson to me...

LJ

Same forum "During my time in the RAF SAR (I was an Air Loadmaster or as we were often called 'Dope on a Rope') we did trials with some of the types of aircraft the police use and most just are not suitable for this type of use, also many pilots do not recieve any rescue flight training, as a pilot rated on that type he should be aware of the airframes limitations and exclusions and if he had no rescue flight training or winch ops training he shouldn't have attempted what he did."
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 22:21
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Another post on the same forum:

I used to be a reservist with the RAF Search & Rescue, in my other time I used to be a stage manager / stage crew. After my Sqn was disbanded I carried on crewing and was asked to stand in as the safety officer for one of the theatres I worked at after the SO had an accident and broke his leg.
Does that help? Didn't know we had Resrvists on SAR apart from some FTRS. I stand to be corrected...
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 22:23
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Fairdos AA..

Neck duly wound-in.
I apologise. Pm sent.
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 23:10
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You could always email a member of 202 from that period

Page A-B - 202 Squadron Association
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Old 3rd Mar 2014, 23:45
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SARWALT ALERT!

I was RAF SAR from 1978 to 1999 - 22 & 202 Sqns. Never heard of him and no, we didn't have first tour ALM's or reservists (not FTR even) back then.
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 07:56
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OK, there is prima facie evidence that this guy is telling a few porkies and perhaps 'bigging' himself up.

What do fellow PPruners think is the best remedy?
  • Serve multiple H&S infringement notices upon him, hoping the paper work with engulf him?
  • Insist that he spends a weekend with the West Country lot, where his survival skills might be, err, required?
  • Send him to the RAFA Annual conference and in doing so commit him to 2 days of mental torture?
  • Send him on a Unit Equality and Diversity Advisors' course?
  • Make him serve in 'today's' Air Force?
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 07:59
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There are words & phrases we all use, and recognise.
I do not recognise any of the words or phrases from the "quotes", it is all very tortuous & oblique.

I do not recognise the name.

Do you know anyone who served 4 years?
(Incidents etc aside.)

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Old 4th Mar 2014, 08:44
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Tiger Mate, Al bert

Re the ‘no first tourists on SAR’. There was one. In 80/81(?) a crewman was selected during the Shawbury phase of training to go SAR however he couldn't go without being ‘badged’ aircrew so the system fudged it and he did a Puma course. After graduation he went straight to SAR where he had a long and successful career.
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 09:45
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SAR Walt?

So he did four years and over 700 shouts
Almost 200 a year, or four a week

Yeah ok, and I got a. 199 to run with more thrust than a J58

I call Walt - someone MSG the WaltenKommando
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 10:22
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Tiger Mate, NCO from our crew and a nav on our sqn, one JA who SAR mates should know.
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 11:02
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ST JW - I stand corrected, but I can't guess who that might be, probably not our Walt though!

Pontius - certainly knew an ex Nimrod Nav by the initials JA - and a very fine nav was he! (I feel a song coming on)

Still, Walt did nearly as many 'shouts' as me (we never called them shouts btw) in my 21 years

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Old 4th Mar 2014, 11:34
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I've just popped back to this thread to see what's new.

Can I just add a few thoughts.
This chap may have been in the RAF, and maybe even in the Sqn he claims but perhaps in a totally different trade (or perhaps there is an ATC cadet Sqn with that number etc)

The fact he was looking for a course to enable him to teach first aid at work courses maybe just that. Being a medic at any level would not entitle you to be able to teach HSE first aid courses, you would still need to have the teaching cert.

He probably is a qualified bushcraft/survival instructor but that doesn't mean he has any military training or experience in this field. I myself am a qualified bushcraft instructor, and as far as I can see it literally means that someone who has no knowledge of bushcraft has printed something out for me and nothing more. From the qualifications I've seen the 'average' bushcraft qualification is just worthless and in no way has any connection to proper outdoor instructor Qualifications that have to be earned (mine certainly wasn't earned, and was dropped into file 13 pretty quickly)

Although his school seems a bit rubbish IMHO lets not confuse military survival priorities with general survival. When looking at the average student in his video I couldn't see many of them even being old enough to join the military, let alone be anywhere dangerous.

So, if anyone is really upset by this and wants to call Walt and is really on the outrage bus about this, just get the bus to collect a load of current SAR bods and get them on a block booking on one of his courses
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 11:46
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the Tuareg state a “HANDFUL of sand” would make perfect sense
Well, it's a big desert but that dessicated do-do has been laid down over millenia

Re 'Concealment'; used to wonder about that
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 13:21
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Al-Bert.

Never mind how few times you got called out. You and our man are way behind the worlds greatest life guard.

If you have not heard of him, check out the series 'son of the beach' starring Notch Johnson the worlds greatest life guard..........with over a million people rescued!




Oh, it is a comedy by the way, and a superb parody of bay watch.
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 13:57
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Al-bert, that's the man. John M and Pete W also came across the same time. Both were outstanding wet men and badly missed but they wanted out.
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 14:06
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Just reading Harry Redknapps book, and he was conned spectacularly by a 'Jockey' called 'Lee Topliss' (A real Jockey's who has nothing to do with con).. It's funny in one respect, but the reality is people who con the public should be outed.
I went to school with this chap, and it's not funny. ?Fake reverend? George Gordon in court over alleged fraud offences - Liverpool Echo
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 17:41
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Why don't we email him and ask what his course number through SARTU was (presuming they still did it the same way then).

I was always told the Crewman's part of SARTU was the hardest course in the RAF, from the little bit I saw and folks I knew, I can believe it.

Al Clapp, Micky Crawford, Smokey Furness?
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 18:12
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I was once approached by this man (link below) with a proposal for a publishing joint venture. He had done his research, we got chatting and he claimed to have done military service in order to qualify for a family inheritance. He told me his family had come over from France ".. after the war". "Really, I asked.. ".. First or Second"? "Neither, dear boy, he intoned without missing a beat.. "1066".

I had been a civvy for 2 years, had just left a FTSE100 company and was now starting up a new business. We had just been listed in Tesco (forget Dragons Den!), were growing very quickly and I was probably receptive to wanting to believe someone who could help our trajectory, although he was clearly BS'ing and he left followed by us cracking up.

I don't like gratuitous outing, but gullible people will be approaching a survival instructor, possibly swayed by a proclaimed specialist military background, to learn life saving skills. Not on.

Christopher Fulke-Greville, Chris Fulke Greville, Help4Heroes Fraud
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Old 4th Mar 2014, 18:17
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or just ask which Flight and when, Dengue D.


Al, Smokey and Mick all grand chaps !
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