Health & Safety Hi Viz Nonsense!
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Health & Safety Hi Viz Nonsense!
Just seen the latest picture of CAS and it looks like someone has insisted on Hi Viz belts with MTP - I give up! 
We spend millions on new kit to make us camouflage and then put a socking great Hi Viz belt on!
We spend millions on new kit to make us camouflage and then put a socking great Hi Viz belt on!
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....and it's obvious they haven't finished squirting the new cam cream into baby rabbits eyes yet or they would all be wearing it......
....and why aren't they all in sangars?.....
....or armed?....
I guess because they're not in an area where you need to be low vis, cam'd up and armed. Possibly a place where H&S has a proper part to play. Unless that's the real beef. It wasn't like this in the good old days when the death and injury rate from preventable incidents was higher.
....and why aren't they all in sangars?.....
....or armed?....
I guess because they're not in an area where you need to be low vis, cam'd up and armed. Possibly a place where H&S has a proper part to play. Unless that's the real beef. It wasn't like this in the good old days when the death and injury rate from preventable incidents was higher.
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You think that making yourself more visible in an aircraft operating area is a bad thing?
Leon,
Have you ever served at Bastion?
If so you'll know all about the 'hat police', 'high viz police' and 'gun police' - not forgetting of course 'the correct sunglasses with correct lens police'. In effect, if there's a chance you're out and about between dusk/dawn you are mandated to wear a high viz part of clothing to minimise the risk of being mown down by a caffeine or heroin doused driver (depending on nationality).
Never mind that enforcing all these rules (mostly petty...) provide gainful full-time employment for several detached personnel.....
Depending on the length of visit you don't need to be armed; the S/L behind CAS is wearing a thigh holster and the F/L probably has a hip holster. That ramp is waaay out of range of sniper fire from outside camp.
Have you ever served at Bastion?
If so you'll know all about the 'hat police', 'high viz police' and 'gun police' - not forgetting of course 'the correct sunglasses with correct lens police'. In effect, if there's a chance you're out and about between dusk/dawn you are mandated to wear a high viz part of clothing to minimise the risk of being mown down by a caffeine or heroin doused driver (depending on nationality).
Never mind that enforcing all these rules (mostly petty...) provide gainful full-time employment for several detached personnel.....
Depending on the length of visit you don't need to be armed; the S/L behind CAS is wearing a thigh holster and the F/L probably has a hip holster. That ramp is waaay out of range of sniper fire from outside camp.
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I realise he is bending forward to shake her hand, but seriously, who released the picture, his stooped look with grey hair makes him look like a senior citizen with curvature of the spine...
It makes him look like a geriatric old man and not a senior officer in the Armed Forces
It makes him look like a geriatric old man and not a senior officer in the Armed Forces
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@ Leon Jabachjabicz
I remember at Stavanger, [Sola ?] once, we f3 linies were kitted out in hi viz/dpm much to the amusement of the bomber contingent.
Got a bit sporty the banter did.
Until a landrover wiped out two of their guys on the flight line after dusk.
Nice new hi viz bomber boys the following morning.
WHY DID IT TAKE AN ACCIDENT FOR THE BASIC RULES TO BE ENFORCED?
No, I don't know either.
Got a bit sporty the banter did.
Until a landrover wiped out two of their guys on the flight line after dusk.
Nice new hi viz bomber boys the following morning.
WHY DID IT TAKE AN ACCIDENT FOR THE BASIC RULES TO BE ENFORCED?
No, I don't know either.
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They're not Harry, but public perception counts for a lot in assessing their capability in the role, look at half of the US politicians, dyed hair, whitened teeth and you can't tell me John Kerry's hair never came mail order.
And that picture does nothing for his image or position.
And that picture does nothing for his image or position.
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Glad rag, I believe, It was one of the pilots with Hunting Cargo stepped off the plane steps in black uniform, coat and hat at night and was killed by a vehicle passing as well.
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CAS: "So...you're a woman I see. Jolly good show. Boots getting through? Mail fits?"
Sqn Ldr: [Career laugh through gritted teeth] "Ha Ha sir" "(Don't embarrass me guys..!)"
Flt Lt in UBACS: [Career laugh] "Ha Ha sir, that's a good one. Now, about the cuts to my pension..."
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Take all the points about the dilemma in theatre ... why that would be exactly like putting HISLs on camouflaged aircraft! 
.... but I was visiting an RAF training unit the other day, and they had airmen rather than plods or MGS doing "barrier up barrier down". Might have been the trainees I suppose.
But they were in MTP and Hi-Vis vests. No quibble (well - not much) with the Hi Vis, but why MTP and not blue FFS if they wanted to be seen?
.... but I was visiting an RAF training unit the other day, and they had airmen rather than plods or MGS doing "barrier up barrier down". Might have been the trainees I suppose.
But they were in MTP and Hi-Vis vests. No quibble (well - not much) with the Hi Vis, but why MTP and not blue FFS if they wanted to be seen?
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I do remember before all this hi viz stuff starts that 2 aircrew walking across the flight line were struck by a runway snow blower when the driver didn't see them. Although they were injured, it was their good fortune that the machine had just broken a shear pin. The impeller drive in one of those things has around 600BHP.
After an excellent landing etc...
After an excellent landing etc...
Perhaps because it is crappy and cold out there on the gate and MTP is far more suitable for that role?
If a barrier technician is just checking passes and not carrying a shooter (viz Alan Partridge) why the need for MTP?