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Aircrew knife - HELP!!

Old 12th Nov 2013, 23:49
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Originally Posted by Mighty Gem
I think your Army logic might be lost here.
You may well be right!
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 10:19
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The first thing we did on being called out to a snag was empty our pockets.
Definitly nothing like that up to my demob, 1965.

We didn't get 'called out' to snags either! We 'saw in' the A/C and spoke to the crew. In my case usually the Navigator. We discussed the performance of the various equipment and if anything was 'snagged' in the F700 it was entered by the Captain before he signed. An entry of 'Satisfactory' was rather rare on a Valiant! They were not the world's most reliable A/C and all of the Radio kit was pre-transister stuff, so something usually packed up.

We of course informed the Crew Chief and our trade SNCO's what was happening.
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 11:05
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I always said this wasn't an aircrew 'knife' as such...more of an aircrew 'spoon' ....and bl**dy useless it was at that too!
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 11:23
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At 154cm , I would rather call this a sword!
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
But think back to the original dinghy knife. It had a flame orange handle, a curved blade perforated along its short concave curved length and terminated in a properly rounded end.
That would be this one, I think;



That particular one was liberated from a dinghy pack (along with a box kite) around 1950.
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 12:18
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And Civi wise you have your own tools. Trust me the best form of tool control is having to pay for them, trust me loosing a screwdriver at over £60 a pop makes sure you don't.


Thats why at a nth yorks ex tonka base you were not allowed to park a tonka (no matter how desperate for space) in a half empty grob hangar. AC under MAA rules cannot be housed with AC under CAA rules because of the very reason of tool control. A rule that seemed to 'fly' out of the window when away from an RAF base.
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So i take it this is the current issue in the seats



The one I still have is on the right of this piccie


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Old 13th Nov 2013, 12:40
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And Civi wise you have your own tools. Trust me the best form of tool control is having to pay for them, trust me loosing a screwdriver at over £60 a pop makes sure you don't.


That's why at a nth yorks ex tonka base you were not allowed to park a tonka (no matter how desperate for space) in a half empty grob hangar. AC under MAA rules cannot be housed with AC under CAA rules because of the very reason of tool control. A rule that seemed to 'fly' out of the window when away from an RAF base.
Don't get me wrong, my tools are not thrown willie nilly into a tool kit, everything has its place and are marked with my initials so i know exactly what is and isn't there. There was a case a while back and my heart went out to him of a Yak that spun in and killed them, a Dumpy screwdriver was found in the wreckage jamming the Elevators if memory serves me correctly, a young apprentice immediately owned up to it being his, but he hadn't worked or used it on the aircraft, one possibility surmised was the pilot may have taken it out of the lads tool kit to do up a couple of panels, put it in his pocket where it fell out during aero's and migrated down the tail.. That poor lad has to live with that.

Found it

A trainee mechanic at the maintenance organisation, upon hearing that a loose article had been
discovered in G-YAKW, came forward and declared
that he had lost a short-handled flat-bladed
screwdriver matching the description of the item found in the aircraft. The trainee had started work at
the maintenance organisation in September 2002 and had not worked on LY-AKW during its 50 hour
inspection. However, he did work on the aircraft in November 2002. He does not recall ever using
the screwdriver on the aircraft and only remembers using it to open a tin of paint away from the
aircraft. Indeed the trainee was never given or accomplished a task that would warrant the use of such
a screwdriver. This type of screwdriver is only used on tasks in difficult and restricted areas. The
maintenance organisation also claims that screwdrivers of this type are seldom used during normal
maintenance carried out on the aircraft. Subsequent testing of the screwdriver removed from the
wreckage, however, revealed DNA matching that of the pilot. This indicated that he had touched it at
some time prior to the accident.
The trainee's personal tools were located in two separate tool boxes at the back of the maintenance
hangar. The tool boxes were never locked and were left open during the day but closed at night. The
trainee had been made fully aware of the dangers of loose articles in aircraft and was reminded of this
on many occasions by the more senior technicians and licensed aircraft engineers (LAE). The
borrowing of tools did take place at the organisation and the policy was for the owner to be asked
before hand, but if the owner was not present, items could be borrowed without his knowledge. The
owner however remained responsible
for his own personal tools including ensuring that they were all
present and correct. There was no formal tool control at the maintenance organisation.

Full report and pictures.
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...pdf_024587.pdf
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 18:29
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Kabul Airport 2012.

RAFP: Sir, please place you rifle and hand luggage in the x-ray machine.
Me: Ok
RAFP: Sir you have a rifle with a mag on and a pistol in your hand luggage also with a mag on.
Me: Correct Cpl, that's the weapon load status here.
RAFP: Yes sir, that's correct sir.
Me: !!!

Genius....

The knife cutter thing is excellent at cutting Lino...
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These cost £1.4M each, the F4J's were free!

Vintage Camillus MC 1 Orange Paratrooper Knife | eBay

Nothing matters very much etc...
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Three pages on Aircrew Knives…well down lads, got the really important stuff covered?
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Old 13th Nov 2013, 22:49
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Angel Knife aircrew blade concave

Joining the fray in Sep 1970, my issued knife was the much maligned curved blade that had recently replaced the straight bladed original. So 1970 was the earliest I remember the 'curver' and what an improvement it was over its predecesssor, which was utterly unsuited to scraping out one's briar. The curved blade, blunt or not, was perfect for decoking one's pipe (having first cut away the annoying string).
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Aircrew knife - HELP!!

Personally, I rather like my kuhkri :-)
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Three pages on Aircrew Knives…well down lads, got the really important stuff covered?
So who's going to open a thread on Compo can openers?

I always thought the Aussie version superior with the built in spoon

Http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Can_Opener.jpg
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 08:42
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LJR said:
Three pages on Aircrew Knives…well down lads, got the really important stuff covered?
The redeeming factor of being an old fart, is acting the part!
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 10:00
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..now can openers, there is totally different tool…...but an old fart like me has dexterity issues that prevent a fair and reasonable trial being conducted!
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 10:57
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That particular one was liberated from a dinghy pack (along with a box kite) around 1950.
Very same knife still in use today, in fact I was packing a raft with them installed for cutting the painter lines.
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Three pages on Aircrew Knives…well down lads, got the really important stuff covered?
Oh FFS, we forgot we're only supposed to post po-faced boring sh1te on here.

Still, it's better than 99.99% of the stuff in the 1036 pages of the caption competition thread.
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Old 14th Nov 2013, 17:03
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I seem to recall being in AEA OR at the time the curved knife came in and that the justification was that, whereas the old knife was intended to stab dinghies or lifejackets that inflated inadvertently in the cockpit, the new curved version was also intended to be able to cut parachute lines after some unfortunate entanglements.
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Oh FFS, we forgot we're only supposed to post po-faced boring sh1te on here.

Still, it's better than 99.99% of the stuff in the 1036 pages of the caption competition thread.

Noooooooo It's all Busters doing

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