More flak for defence sec!
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
WW, but it the SNavO aircrew again?
I could not get my head around allowing one of the Telephone Branch to become in charge of navigation
I could not get my head around allowing one of the Telephone Branch to become in charge of navigation
Years ago (about 20) a station in Cambs was the first "budget" station in STC. Staish and I realised that we were building a budget surplus on the basis of the price of fuel (Black £). AOC was livid when he found we had used it to double glaze AMQ and fit central heating. In 3 years did the whole MQ estate, last houses to be done were the big pre-war MQ where the execs lived.
PN:-
I refer the honourable member to an answer I gave earlier:-
So you and me both then, Pontius?
Oh, Wander00, edited to add that a chum of mine got into trouble following a defuel at some foreign field (can't remember where, or why the defuel was). The fuel company quite reasonably refused to take it back, so chum got some empty 40 gallon barrels and filled them from the jettison trunks. As the aircraft was a Hastings the fuel was AVGAS, and he found ready buyers among local motorists. The weird part is that he gave receipts for each purchase and put copies and the money into the Flight Sub Imprest! The trouble of course stemmed not from the danger involved in the defuel but in selling HM's gas to civilians without authority. If he had used the money for a mega crew piss-up all would have been well but that just wasn't the thing to do evidently.
Apart from a piano burning incident he did rather well for himself and the other man retired as a gp capt.
If you had a poor SC you had a poor Station (I experienced one such).
Oh, Wander00, edited to add that a chum of mine got into trouble following a defuel at some foreign field (can't remember where, or why the defuel was). The fuel company quite reasonably refused to take it back, so chum got some empty 40 gallon barrels and filled them from the jettison trunks. As the aircraft was a Hastings the fuel was AVGAS, and he found ready buyers among local motorists. The weird part is that he gave receipts for each purchase and put copies and the money into the Flight Sub Imprest! The trouble of course stemmed not from the danger involved in the defuel but in selling HM's gas to civilians without authority. If he had used the money for a mega crew piss-up all would have been well but that just wasn't the thing to do evidently.
Last edited by Chugalug2; 13th Oct 2013 at 20:03.
Chugalug wrote:
More likely the trouble would have come from HM C&E (as was) as aviation fuel is/was supplied duty-free for aero-engine use only. What your chum did was the equivalent of a farmer selling red diesel to his mate for use in his car.
The trouble of course stemmed not from the danger involved in the defuel but in selling HM's gas to civilians without authority.
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"At some foreign field", HMC&E should have firmly had their beaks out of it. Had your chum referred it UK POL side for disposal instructions, it would probably have been authorised "to best advantage to the Crown" (well, SOP Navy anyway) and he'd have been fireproof. Maybe he did but didn't mention it.
The motorists got a particularly good deal since it was essentially 5 star petrol. There was a similar story of a crew from a 4 engined jet based in Oxon who managed to get a defuel and refund. Allegedly the imprest system could not cope with making money.
Allegedly the imprest system could not cope with making money.