What were they thinking !!!!!
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What were they thinking !!!!!
BBC News - Police probe 'concerns' over Rangers' Armed Forces Day
Soldiers accused of sectarian singing at Ibrox - The Scotsman
FFS Why are they getting involved in something like this.............go to a game, parade, sit down watch a game and stay away from anything controversial..............
Soldiers accused of sectarian singing at Ibrox - The Scotsman
FFS Why are they getting involved in something like this.............go to a game, parade, sit down watch a game and stay away from anything controversial..............
You have me at a disadvantage, Racedo. I have no idea what's going on there. It looks like football fans, after a game, doing what football fans do, singing and chanting (can't hear what they're saysing) and the mil pers waving at them, photographing them and joining in, in a well spirited way on their way out of the stadium.
Seriously, I can't see what's going on that's an issue. I have to declare that I am not a follower of such things so I probably need educating. Without understanding more about the politics and the situation, I am at a loss.
Seriously, I can't see what's going on that's an issue. I have to declare that I am not a follower of such things so I probably need educating. Without understanding more about the politics and the situation, I am at a loss.
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This might help you understand a bit more
Armed forces? involvement in a sectarian Rangers ?party? a PR disaster | Alex Thomson's View | Alex Thomson's View
Armed forces? involvement in a sectarian Rangers ?party? a PR disaster | Alex Thomson's View | Alex Thomson's View
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CM - Allow me to educate you...the non-partisan (non Old-Firm supporting) members of the public here may be pretty disgusted at the behaviour of those in uniform shown below...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzV4...e_gdata_player
Most here couldn't give a **** what the knuckle-draggers at Ibrox/Celtic Park get up to, so long as it remains within the confines of the stadia concerned and doesn't affect those outside in the real world who are neither involved nor harbour any desire to become involved.
However, when those in uniform are seen to join in with the knuckle-draggers, then that is viewed somewhat differently...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzV4...e_gdata_player
Most here couldn't give a **** what the knuckle-draggers at Ibrox/Celtic Park get up to, so long as it remains within the confines of the stadia concerned and doesn't affect those outside in the real world who are neither involved nor harbour any desire to become involved.
However, when those in uniform are seen to join in with the knuckle-draggers, then that is viewed somewhat differently...
Lets be honest, certain members of our Armed Forces only differ from the less desirables in amongst a footie crowd by the fact they wear uniforms. I'm not at all surprised some of them forgot themselves and joined in with the chanting. Mind you, I bet they all got the beasting of their lives when this got out - they sure as hell won't do it again.
Thanks. I get it. Didn't understand before what the chanting was about, but I guess I should have. Only excuses, football leaves me cold and the politics of Rangers/Celtic, etc, even more so. I'm am now better informed, but no wiser. 
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Whereof you know nothing, thereof should you remain silent.
That aside, the German populace of my time, having experience of troops from the fair city in question, at times termed them "gift-zwerge" - "poison-dwarves" !
I merely state this as a fact, expressing no comment. (however, this corroboration may be of interest to 'dead_pan').
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That aside, the German populace of my time, having experience of troops from the fair city in question, at times termed them "gift-zwerge" - "poison-dwarves" !
I merely state this as a fact, expressing no comment. (however, this corroboration may be of interest to 'dead_pan').
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Originally Posted by Courtney
Football leaves me cold ...
Never mind it won't be too long before the "Ruffian’s game played by gentlemen" gets into full swing ...
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Are we of the single- and double-winged master race really any better? Every year at the F-4 reunion, held in a pub off Whitehall, after a few sherbets a rousing and tuneless chorus of "The Flag" breaks out.
Thirty years ago, and in context, it was funny: now, sung in public, it makes me cringe. I dread to think what the other people in the pub must think - my only hope is that they don't realise we're all (mainly) ex-servicemen.
Thirty years ago, and in context, it was funny: now, sung in public, it makes me cringe. I dread to think what the other people in the pub must think - my only hope is that they don't realise we're all (mainly) ex-servicemen.
tuneless chorus of "The Flag" breaks out.
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He appears to have reviewed his original assessment and withdrawn the video.
Probably a good time to mention, for the very few who didn't know already, that Greenock Morton beat Celtic 1:0 a week ago
The evidence is all there, all over YouTube (see above), posted by loyal Rangers fans who thought it was all an innocent grand day out.
Probably a good time to mention, for the very few who didn't know already, that Greenock Morton beat Celtic 1:0 a week ago
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Not a clever thing to do, though I'd rather fry my testicles on a griddle than watch 22 grown men kicking a bag of wind through 4 sticks..... speaking of bags of wind, has Salmond commented on the incident yet?
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Unless you're from Clydeside or Merseyside, you will have difficulty understanding how ingrained is Irish politics in these areas.
On Clydeside, the separation of RC and Protestant schools acerbates the situation and is, IMHO, absolutely crazy.
Not everyone is a religious and/or political bigot: I noticed a lady commentator in one of those reports who is a Catholic Rangers supporter and my BiL is a Prod Celtic supporter. He did say, about blazer buttons which I hadn't even noticed: "I wouldn't walk past Parkhead (Celtic, Celts, Tims) wearing that!" Turned out that the offending buttons looked a bit like the Rangers (Gers, Huns) badge.
On Clydeside, the separation of RC and Protestant schools acerbates the situation and is, IMHO, absolutely crazy.
Not everyone is a religious and/or political bigot: I noticed a lady commentator in one of those reports who is a Catholic Rangers supporter and my BiL is a Prod Celtic supporter. He did say, about blazer buttons which I hadn't even noticed: "I wouldn't walk past Parkhead (Celtic, Celts, Tims) wearing that!" Turned out that the offending buttons looked a bit like the Rangers (Gers, Huns) badge.
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I grew up on the west coast of Scotland and I have never understood any of this, maybe because I'm not a rangers/celtic fan. I have always been of the opinion that if you object to that kind of singing/chanting then don't go.
Besides, they're all at it and all as bad as each other and at the end of the day it is only singing. Sticks and stones...
Besides, they're all at it and all as bad as each other and at the end of the day it is only singing. Sticks and stones...
I didn't know, Basil. But who's Greenock Morton?
Greenock also has a rugby club for which an English colleague played. He mentioned that, when an attack was getting to close quarters, they always passed the ball to him.
