End of an era, or a new beginning ?? X47B launching from the George W.
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As luck would have it I just spoke to a LSO who confirmed that whilst they don't 'wave the pass' as they would for a piloted aircraft they are there to wave off etc as they would for any other deck evolution.
Spaz. Correct there will be a 'wing qual' on the LSO platform at any one time but the 'squadron qual' guys will be on primary waving the pass for any aircraft in the wing.
Spaz. Correct there will be a 'wing qual' on the LSO platform at any one time but the 'squadron qual' guys will be on primary waving the pass for any aircraft in the wing.
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'orca' so it seems any old LSO is convincing rather than the written material provided on previous page which goes to great lengths to explain the role of the LSO in the specific situation for recovering X-47Bs aboard (there is more to that material not in the brief excerpts shown).
Here is an example of a crowded (Raygun) LSO platform....
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VIDEO: LSOs Doan Impres Me Much Satire Song - YouTube
Here is an example of a crowded (Raygun) LSO platform....
“Lex:– I’ve been a big fan of your site for a while. I’m CAG Paddles on the Ronnie Reagan and was on the platform for this shot (in the back with the headset on) which was taken a couple of days ago. I had no idea that the picture was taken and was very surprised to see it on your site. Our “wave” Teams today consist of a Paddles from each squadron–usually about five guys. There is the Controlling LSO, Backup, CAG Paddles, writer, deck caller, and also a timer for groove length and interval between aircraft. Of course, there is the enlisted hook spotter, gear cross-checker, and lens rep. (all with cranials on). Obviously, it makes for a crowded platform but is necessary for safe operations today. Yes, we are looking back at a Hornet which just trapped. And yes, we are girly-men for the wind screen! Thanks and keep up the good work. Taco”
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No you miss the point.
All those people are indeed there, my point was purely that the guy on primary will wave any pass from any machine. He is backed up by secondary who is usually concerned with line up and there is a wing qual guy there as per my previous.
I'm not reading too much into your tone (which appeared a little dismissive)but my last trap and visit to the platform was within the last three months and I was on the Bush for some of the X-47 work...and the bloke I quoted was CAG paddles. But anyway...back to you.
All those people are indeed there, my point was purely that the guy on primary will wave any pass from any machine. He is backed up by secondary who is usually concerned with line up and there is a wing qual guy there as per my previous.
I'm not reading too much into your tone (which appeared a little dismissive)but my last trap and visit to the platform was within the last three months and I was on the Bush for some of the X-47 work...and the bloke I quoted was CAG paddles. But anyway...back to you.
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'orca' well I did say any 'old' LSO. 
It seems we talk at odds though. I'm referring to the VX-23 LSO(s) who have recently stopped their work with X-47B onboard - anway. No one else would know anything about them; except BUSH LSOs will go to their platform to observe/learn and assist as you indicate. The future will be as we both say. I'll take your word for what you do and you take mine including evidence provided.
Pretty much you can read my tone as being humourous (in the long tradition - sadly now gone - of the old RAN FAA Fixed Wing Division). Australians do not take much seriously and they get on with things. Watch out for your job according to this little lot...
Navy jet drone: 2 out of 4 ain't bad? Jeanette Steele 19 July 2013
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It seems we talk at odds though. I'm referring to the VX-23 LSO(s) who have recently stopped their work with X-47B onboard - anway. No one else would know anything about them; except BUSH LSOs will go to their platform to observe/learn and assist as you indicate. The future will be as we both say. I'll take your word for what you do and you take mine including evidence provided.Pretty much you can read my tone as being humourous (in the long tradition - sadly now gone - of the old RAN FAA Fixed Wing Division). Australians do not take much seriously and they get on with things. Watch out for your job according to this little lot...
Navy jet drone: 2 out of 4 ain't bad? Jeanette Steele 19 July 2013
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In a recent piece about the X-47B, Global Security describes a future where the Navy puts a human air wing crew on a carrier only when combat is imminent. That scenario requires far fewer pilots and aircraft mechanics.
In that version of reality, the human jet pilot could go the way of the elevator operator.
“It has been a long time since there were many want ads for elevator operators, though at one time that was a pretty decent line of work,” Pike said."
In a recent piece about the X-47B, Global Security describes a future where the Navy puts a human air wing crew on a carrier only when combat is imminent. That scenario requires far fewer pilots and aircraft mechanics.
In that version of reality, the human jet pilot could go the way of the elevator operator.
“It has been a long time since there were many want ads for elevator operators, though at one time that was a pretty decent line of work,” Pike said."
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The thing that interests me is if this is so automated that the same technology could be used in normal aircraft to help the pilots land more easily. An "autoland" feature in other words.
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What has happened to the thread posts here after the last post in August? 'orca' did you steal them? Your own recent post in the last day or so has gone missing - along with mine. I dunno.
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I can promise you old chap that whilst I am many things, lots of them of dubious moral standing, a post stealer I am not!
Try the bloke who started the Tristar thread, not that he'll remember doing it!
Try the bloke who started the Tristar thread, not that he'll remember doing it!
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My tongue was firmly in my cheek 'orca' regarding the 'stealing'. However I adjudge you will recall now not seeing your recent - the other day - one liner post which followed several posts answering the 'auto land question' - now gone? I'm baffled - but I'm used to it. Tristar thread - what is that? 
Tristar thread - what is that?
