The blessed Margaret ..
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I only ever kept two magazines of my time in the RAF, both of which are the RAF Brize Norton Gateway Magazine, one is the November 1988 edition when Maggie Honoured 10 Sqn and the other is the January 1988 edition that was the Gorbachev visit special, again featuring Maggie.
Of all the leaders this Country has produced I hold her up there with Winston Churchill, some are destined to lead, but few do it well.
She seemed to exude a quality of leadership that was both decisive and inspired belief in her and the path she was leading the Country down, something those that have followed lack in spades.
RIP Maggie, you leave this world having truly stamped your mark on it and a better place because of that.
Of all the leaders this Country has produced I hold her up there with Winston Churchill, some are destined to lead, but few do it well.
She seemed to exude a quality of leadership that was both decisive and inspired belief in her and the path she was leading the Country down, something those that have followed lack in spades.
RIP Maggie, you leave this world having truly stamped your mark on it and a better place because of that.
A very sad day. Mrs T did us all proud and saved this country from terminal decline. Despite some of the revisionist rubbish that you hear these days - often from scrotes that were too young to know anything about it and would run screaming if they were exposed to even a fraction of the pre-Thatcher era (they simply wouldn't be able to comprehend those times or the 'loser' attitudes!). The Eighties were a good time to be young and to be filled with hope; she made a fundamental positive difference to my life and to this country. Proved Britain could still breed true world-class leaders and she did genuinely break down social mobility barriers (much reversed now after 11 years of labour and fellow-travellers' noses in the trough!)
A true Brit, in every sense of the word!
RIP Maggie
A true Brit, in every sense of the word!
RIP Maggie
Margaret Thatcher dead: George Galloway leads chorus of 'celebration' from the left | Mail Online
Now this sort of thing really makes my blood boil. Let's make them do something useful with their lives - round them all up, ship them to Helmand and give them a trowel to clear up the land mines and IEDs!
Disrepectful oxygen thieves, the lot of them...
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Now this sort of thing really makes my blood boil. Let's make them do something useful with their lives - round them all up, ship them to Helmand and give them a trowel to clear up the land mines and IEDs!
Disrepectful oxygen thieves, the lot of them...
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Modestly proud to discover that I have been banned from the concurrent Jet Blast thread for a week for "abuse", my first ever banning.
What awful sin did I commit? I merely said that:
"I'm sorry to say that I am extremely disappointed at the postings made by some members whose contributions I have always previously admired - you know who you are and, no, I'm not a Conservative."
Interesting to see how long this post lasts, not least since some of the very same contributors I was referring to seem to have got away with much worse on this thread!
Jack
What awful sin did I commit? I merely said that:
"I'm sorry to say that I am extremely disappointed at the postings made by some members whose contributions I have always previously admired - you know who you are and, no, I'm not a Conservative."
Interesting to see how long this post lasts, not least since some of the very same contributors I was referring to seem to have got away with much worse on this thread!
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I can't tell you how pleasing it is to continue reading the comments in this section of the PPRuNe forums, regardless of what your political beliefs are, every single post has shown respect. Some of the forums i've visited tonight have made me cringe with the comments posted therein...
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Predictable to see various old commies, champagne socialist and bandwagon riding dimwits showing their true colours, not forgetting a few ageing terrorists as well.
Always fascinating to get Comrade Galloway's gems of wisdom.
Always fascinating to get Comrade Galloway's gems of wisdom.
The fact that Galloway was gallavanting about in a red London bus with Saddam Hussain in Baghdad whilst I was getting shot at in one Her Majesty's aircraft always got to me.
Whatever happened to treason...
Whatever happened to treason...
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Thanks 
Had a read, done some Googling as well.
He was bum chums with the Iraqis, especially Aziz.
Love the way he spins the bus ride to Iraq with the
feel good factor of naming it after the girl. Clever.
Had a read, done some Googling as well.
He was bum chums with the Iraqis, especially Aziz.
Love the way he spins the bus ride to Iraq with the
feel good factor of naming it after the girl. Clever.
Don't get me wrong - big fan of the Iron Lady's work. but there was a point raised on a TV show by that beyond-her-use-by-date Germaine Greer that stated that Mrs T was a war criminal for sinking the Belgrano.
Seemed like a fair enough shot to me - that ship did have the capability of causing quite a bit of damage had it managed to get stuck into the carriers and support vessels - probably completely jeopardising the entire operation. So even if the Belgrano was crewed by nuns and handicapped children and filled with fluffy kittens and puppies - operationally the best course of action was to have her sunk.
Why is the claim made that the sinking is a war crime?
Seemed like a fair enough shot to me - that ship did have the capability of causing quite a bit of damage had it managed to get stuck into the carriers and support vessels - probably completely jeopardising the entire operation. So even if the Belgrano was crewed by nuns and handicapped children and filled with fluffy kittens and puppies - operationally the best course of action was to have her sunk.
Why is the claim made that the sinking is a war crime?
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Because it was outside the 200 mile exclusion zone and
? heading away ? (need to check that).
Either way, it was a legitimate target as it was part of a
pincer movement on the task force. Even the Capt of
the Belgrano said so himself.
? heading away ? (need to check that).
Either way, it was a legitimate target as it was part of a
pincer movement on the task force. Even the Capt of
the Belgrano said so himself.
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During an interview in 2003 he (Belgrano's captain, Héctor Bonzohad) stated that the General Belgrano was only temporarily sailing to the west at the time of the attack, and his orders were to attack any British ships which came within range of cruiser's armament.
The Argentine Navy has historically held the view that the sinking was a legitimate act of war.
The Argentine Navy has historically held the view that the sinking was a legitimate act of war.
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What has not been mentioned yet is loyalty.
For Baroness Thatcher loyalty was a two way requirement. She showed great loyalty, protection call it what you will but she stood steadfastly behind those that did their job to the best of their ability. An iconic figure that was one of our greatest Prime Ministers.
If this lady committed such a sin in the way she dealt with the coal miners dispute then why weren't those coal mines reopened when she left office? Why were they not reopened when labour came back into power?
No one is perfect but thank God she was in the right place at the right time and made decisions that I cannot envisage any modern day British Prime Minister making.
She has earned that funeral with FULL military honours and hopefully our retired Special Forces will be invited to attend as I believe she held them in very high regard.
My thoughts are with her family at this sad time
John
For Baroness Thatcher loyalty was a two way requirement. She showed great loyalty, protection call it what you will but she stood steadfastly behind those that did their job to the best of their ability. An iconic figure that was one of our greatest Prime Ministers.
If this lady committed such a sin in the way she dealt with the coal miners dispute then why weren't those coal mines reopened when she left office? Why were they not reopened when labour came back into power?
No one is perfect but thank God she was in the right place at the right time and made decisions that I cannot envisage any modern day British Prime Minister making.
She has earned that funeral with FULL military honours and hopefully our retired Special Forces will be invited to attend as I believe she held them in very high regard.
My thoughts are with her family at this sad time
John
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"and hopefully our retired Special Forces will be invited to attend as I believe she held them in very high regard."
believe ????
She called them "her boys" and used them as her private little army
(Ref to using the SAS to break up the prison siege
where I believe a few eyebrows were raised).
believe ????
She called them "her boys" and used them as her private little army
(Ref to using the SAS to break up the prison siege
where I believe a few eyebrows were raised).
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The BBC said earlier, that she specifically didn't want a 'RAF flyby'. Ok, fair enough, and you have to respect someone's wishes.
But, erm.. couldn't someone have a well, sort of.. navigation glitch at just the right moment? Maybe, lots of people with the same map issues. Maybe.. maybe, if there was a Spitfire over the South East, loitering, a Hurricane.. the Vulcan maybe too, a Herc, VC10 still kicking around, C-17, a Typhoon, Chinook Tornado etc.. all doing other really important military type stuff but if they all seemed to get lost at the wrong moment, and if they all found themselves in trail, trying to get a fix.. well, that would be absolutely dreadful and worthy of remedial training but probably not court martial stuff.
I will pass the Roberts cornmershop on the way to Coningsby tomorrow. I'm far too boring, unsentimental and English to give her a quick nod and an appreciative blast on the horn. But if I wasn't of course..
But, erm.. couldn't someone have a well, sort of.. navigation glitch at just the right moment? Maybe, lots of people with the same map issues. Maybe.. maybe, if there was a Spitfire over the South East, loitering, a Hurricane.. the Vulcan maybe too, a Herc, VC10 still kicking around, C-17, a Typhoon, Chinook Tornado etc.. all doing other really important military type stuff but if they all seemed to get lost at the wrong moment, and if they all found themselves in trail, trying to get a fix.. well, that would be absolutely dreadful and worthy of remedial training but probably not court martial stuff.
I will pass the Roberts cornmershop on the way to Coningsby tomorrow. I'm far too boring, unsentimental and English to give her a quick nod and an appreciative blast on the horn. But if I wasn't of course..