Forgive the impertinence but-
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Forgive the impertinence but-
How do we do in Red Flag these days? I understand that we used to punch well above our weight. I guess that defence budget fiascos have their effect.
Sorry if the question is inappropriate.
Oh yes and realise it's a learning experience but.
Sorry if the question is inappropriate.
Oh yes and realise it's a learning experience but.
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Having been lucky enough to participate in Red Flag a few times I'm not sure where your 'punching well above our weight' comment comes from, would you care to elaborate?
When was your last Red Flag?
When was your last Red Flag?
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Oh sorry, I was under the impression that our pilots often surprised their hosts. This despite the RAF flying fewer hours and having and having older kit. I was just curious as I no longer hear from anyone who knows.
No, I discovered fairly soon that I didn't have what it takes.
No, I discovered fairly soon that I didn't have what it takes.
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I certainly saw some Brit AWACS crews "punch above their weight" compared to the USAF's on Ex RED FLAG (Alaska) about 5 years ago - and let me tell you, their combined weight was quite considerable after all the in flight catering!
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RAF Typhoon work up described as per link
U.K, U.S. Prep for Red Flag | Defense News | defensenews.com
Joining Red Flag 13-3 starting 25th Feb - March 15 with some Lossiemouth GR4's. As you say, our aircrew can traditionally hold their own amongst the 'all the gear' crowd.
U.K, U.S. Prep for Red Flag | Defense News | defensenews.com
Joining Red Flag 13-3 starting 25th Feb - March 15 with some Lossiemouth GR4's. As you say, our aircrew can traditionally hold their own amongst the 'all the gear' crowd.
Some would say any punching would be above your weight......but the perceived natural British sense of superiority in all things makes that a given.
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As the budget failure of the executive and legislative branches known as 'sequestration' becomes more and more likely, future Red Flags are likely to be side-lined for lack of funding until the games are settled in Washington.
As to performance and ability to continue performing, perhaps the recent Libya air campaign can answer your question.
As to performance and ability to continue performing, perhaps the recent Libya air campaign can answer your question.
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Indeed, those mighty squadrons of bombers, tankers, fighters, ASW jets, not to mention those carrier groups deployed...
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Oh goody, sensible responses at last. 
Please continue. Those I knew who attended this event, admittedly a generation or so ago, usually came back on a high. I just hoped that this is still the case. The situation over here seems so depressing now. I wish you all moments of joy.
Please continue. Those I knew who attended this event, admittedly a generation or so ago, usually came back on a high. I just hoped that this is still the case. The situation over here seems so depressing now. I wish you all moments of joy.
