Iranian Stealth Fighter "Qaher 313" (for midgets)
Absolutely nothing against the Iranians. Of course I dont understand thier language either so they could actually be saying here is x-scale mockup of a stealth fighter...but as I cant tell, i'll say it for them. If it flies I'll say well done too.
Some people need to get s grip. You only have to browse this forum to see we're more than happy to take the micky out of ourselves - everybody else is fair game too. If you cant take a joke you shouldnt have joined up....oh wait. You didnt.
Some people need to get s grip. You only have to browse this forum to see we're more than happy to take the micky out of ourselves - everybody else is fair game too. If you cant take a joke you shouldnt have joined up....oh wait. You didnt.
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My invite to hate didn't arrive earlier, but this country is in austere times, so I'll put that down to cut backs
Depending on when you left the mob the Iranians may still have been in the 'good lads' club and being supplied with hi tech U.S. kit.
Give it a decade or too and they may be back in it again !
This mock up was probably knocked up by 'Iranian waste o space' and as such deserves as much mocking as British waste o space mock ups in the UK IMHO.
AtomKraft
My invite to hate didn't arrive earlier, but this country is in austere times, so I'll put that down to cut backs
Depending on when you left the mob the Iranians may still have been in the 'good lads' club and being supplied with hi tech U.S. kit.
Give it a decade or too and they may be back in it again !
This mock up was probably knocked up by 'Iranian waste o space' and as such deserves as much mocking as British waste o space mock ups in the UK IMHO.
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Re Thread drift- yep. OK- I started it. Mea Culpa.
I'm wracking my remaining brain cells to remember, but I think it was Iraq that were the 'Good Guys' ie- our Allies, and The Iranians their foe, when I left.
Of course, shortly before that, the Shah was 'in' in Iran and best buddies with the Brits. Our U.S. Cousins were busy flogging him Tomcats, Phantoms, F-5s, Phoenix AAMs and Hawk SAM as fast as they could grab back the petro dollars. How quickly they see their friends turn against them.
Plus ca change, eh?
The whole bunch of the feckers can kiss my arse. Our side included.
All I'm saying is- Off topic or not- I got no quarrel with them.
Re Thread drift- yep. OK- I started it. Mea Culpa.
I'm wracking my remaining brain cells to remember, but I think it was Iraq that were the 'Good Guys' ie- our Allies, and The Iranians their foe, when I left.
Of course, shortly before that, the Shah was 'in' in Iran and best buddies with the Brits. Our U.S. Cousins were busy flogging him Tomcats, Phantoms, F-5s, Phoenix AAMs and Hawk SAM as fast as they could grab back the petro dollars. How quickly they see their friends turn against them.
Plus ca change, eh?
The whole bunch of the feckers can kiss my arse. Our side included.
All I'm saying is- Off topic or not- I got no quarrel with them.
Radical Islamists with Nukes are not anyone's friends.....
Does he have a Nuke?
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"You never know, Saddam also said he had no WMD's. Better make sure."
Come on keejse, I would have expected more from you than "better make sure".
Along the lines of your Falklands rants, about how the West / Imperialist UK and others invade / bomb / destroy cultures with no regard for history, let along taking into account the people's wishes
Come on keejse, I would have expected more from you than "better make sure".
Along the lines of your Falklands rants, about how the West / Imperialist UK and others invade / bomb / destroy cultures with no regard for history, let along taking into account the people's wishes
For someone with no axe to grind Keesje you're doing a fine job of grinding it! Though I hope with that picture you're proving you've actually got a sense of humour. Kurt 'n' all.
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Along the lines of your Falklands rants, about how the West / Imperialist UK and others invade / bomb / destroy cultures with no regard for history
taking into account the people's wishes
Back to topic, I guess the Iranians could do this aircraft. They build up an industry during the last 20 yrs, low end attack helicopters, ground effect vehicles, transport aircraft, transport helicopters, often license build.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5...otype04ek4.jpg
No doubt it would be a light ground attack aircraft replacing older ones (F5?), not invisible but harder to detect / intercept. They might have a look at those inlets at high AoA's IMO
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Looks like wishful thinking on the Iranians part. I could knock together one of those in my garage if I wanted to impress my neighbours and or enemies. Doesn't mean it will fly anytime soon.
The sheer complexity, time and expense of putting any frontline fighter into service is out of reach for most countries even without being under sanctions and self imposed isolationism.
I'm not sure what the Iranians are trying to prove. It might fool the average man in the street but it won't fool those in the know.
There won't be hordes of these in the air anytime soon.
Atomkraft, no one is asking you to. You may not regard them as enemies. But as a Brit and a westerner they regard you as the enemy. That's their problem. They chose to be hostile to all those around them, not the other way around.
The sheer complexity, time and expense of putting any frontline fighter into service is out of reach for most countries even without being under sanctions and self imposed isolationism.
I'm not sure what the Iranians are trying to prove. It might fool the average man in the street but it won't fool those in the know.
There won't be hordes of these in the air anytime soon.
I'd just like to point out as a Brit- that I've nothing against the Iranians/ Persians.
They are no enemy of mine.
I decline the popular invitation to hate them.
They are no enemy of mine.
I decline the popular invitation to hate them.
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b.uecode, where do you think any conflict with Iran would be fought? Wales?
Often the man in the street seems pre occupied, even programmed with the starting point he is on the right side. Probably to avoid complexities.
Often the man in the street seems pre occupied, even programmed with the starting point he is on the right side. Probably to avoid complexities.
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Ol' saddam was demonised in the 'meeja'- then he was invaded. it got so mad that a majority of US citizens were eventually persuaded that he was responsible for 9/11.
We're witnessing the same demonisation of Iran now- you just stated it in your last post! how the hell do you know they regard us as the enemy?
Have you asked them?
Granted, if we invade them they might get a bit annoyed.
Man goes into Doctors. 'Doctor Doctor I think Im turning into a dog'.
Quack: 'OK take it easy, lie down on my couch and we'll have a little chat'.
'I'm not allowed on the couch' says the patient.
Attempt at humour.
Ol' saddam was demonised in the 'meeja'- then he was invaded. it got so mad that a majority of US citizens were eventually persuaded that he was responsible for 9/11.
We're witnessing the same demonisation of Iran now- you just stated it in your last post! how the hell do you know they regard us as the enemy?
Have you asked them?
Granted, if we invade them they might get a bit annoyed.
Man goes into Doctors. 'Doctor Doctor I think Im turning into a dog'.
Quack: 'OK take it easy, lie down on my couch and we'll have a little chat'.
'I'm not allowed on the couch' says the patient.
Attempt at humour.
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West Coast.
As I see it:
1. Iraq was zero threat to the UK (or the US for that matter. They may dislike some of your friends).
2. The war is now, with hindsight (which many didn't need) seen to be unjustified, maybe illegal and a bloody waste of blood and treasure not to mention credability. The aftermath-a disaster.
3. Iran is no threat to the UK either- do you think they threaten the US?
Sure, poke the nest and getting stung is likely, but that is not the same thing as a threat.
We can never hold the ME 'the way we wish it' indefinately. The price of trying to do so is ever rising.
Sooner or later, there will be a reckoning.
As I see it:
1. Iraq was zero threat to the UK (or the US for that matter. They may dislike some of your friends).
2. The war is now, with hindsight (which many didn't need
) seen to be unjustified, maybe illegal and a bloody waste of blood and treasure not to mention credability. The aftermath-a disaster.3. Iran is no threat to the UK either- do you think they threaten the US?
Sure, poke the nest and getting stung is likely, but that is not the same thing as a threat.
We can never hold the ME 'the way we wish it' indefinately. The price of trying to do so is ever rising.
Sooner or later, there will be a reckoning.
Originally Posted by AtomKraft
As I see it:
1. Iraq was zero threat to the UK (or the US for that matter. They may dislike some of your friends).
2. The war is now, with hindsight (which many didn't need
) seen to be unjustified, maybe illegal and a bloody waste of blood and treasure not to mention credability. The aftermath-a disaster.
3. Iran is no threat to the UK either- do you think they threaten the US?
Sure, poke the nest and getting stung is likely, but that is not the same thing as a threat.
We can never hold the ME 'the way we wish it' indefinately. The price of trying to do so is ever rising.
Sooner or later, there will be a reckoning
1. Iraq was zero threat to the UK (or the US for that matter. They may dislike some of your friends).
2. The war is now, with hindsight (which many didn't need
) seen to be unjustified, maybe illegal and a bloody waste of blood and treasure not to mention credability. The aftermath-a disaster.3. Iran is no threat to the UK either- do you think they threaten the US?
Sure, poke the nest and getting stung is likely, but that is not the same thing as a threat.
We can never hold the ME 'the way we wish it' indefinately. The price of trying to do so is ever rising.
Sooner or later, there will be a reckoning
) or is this an opinion derived from the interweb and meeja? 