F-35 Probe and Drogue
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I have tanked in both the Phantom and Tornado against the C130 on both the centre and wing hoses.
Last edited by kbrockman; 29th Jan 2013 at 20:19.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
The centre hose was particularly useful for the long Herc out of ASI on Air Bridge.
Look up at the drogue unit and fly towards it at a smart marching pace.
So, there you go LateArmLive. Lots of tanking advice from people with a lot more tanking experience than me (and with which I completely agree). I realise Pprune has a lot of flippant comments, but I do my best not to make them personally on serious matters of which I have no experience.
p.s. SPILS In for me!
In a slight defence of those who write the manuals, I once forgot that you were not advised to tank the F3 at a height/fit that required both 'burners to stay in contact. Having done it, it was bloody tricky!
p.s. SPILS In for me!
In a slight defence of those who write the manuals, I once forgot that you were not advised to tank the F3 at a height/fit that required both 'burners to stay in contact. Having done it, it was bloody tricky!
Last edited by Fox3WheresMyBanana; 29th Jan 2013 at 23:38.
Indeed, lots of tanking advice from a group of mostly ex-military aircrew sitting at their computer desks, not from TPs flying a jet and trialling something that has never been done before.
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LAL, One of the lessons I thought we learnt over 10 years ago was best 'man for the job'. This is not always a TP with a strain gauge. OEUs have a wealth of experience and sometime may just need advice from BD on trial method. AAR is one of those disciplines where experience is invaluable. If the pilot is in an alien environment and working at capacity he is not best placed to made a valid assessment
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One of the lessons I thought we learnt over 10 years ago was best 'man for the job'
F-35 Probe and Drogue
I wish to clear things up once and for all. What I posted was banter. Some individuals are getting a little precious I think.
It was meant in the same way that some of us would pass comment if, for example, Red 3 were slightly out of position or if Fernando Torres missed another golden scoring opportunity. It doesn't mean we could do any better it just means we have enough knowledge to know that it could have been improved upon.
I'm sure our TP friend is big enough and ugly enough to take banter in the way it was meant without his minders jumping in to protect him. After all, he gets to fly the F35 and its very unlikely that I ever will so I'm sure he won't be crying himself to sleep about BVs tanking comments.
As I said, it was just banter and I'd do it all again tomorrow (to his face if the opportunity presented itself) in a heartbeat.
BV
It was meant in the same way that some of us would pass comment if, for example, Red 3 were slightly out of position or if Fernando Torres missed another golden scoring opportunity. It doesn't mean we could do any better it just means we have enough knowledge to know that it could have been improved upon.
I'm sure our TP friend is big enough and ugly enough to take banter in the way it was meant without his minders jumping in to protect him. After all, he gets to fly the F35 and its very unlikely that I ever will so I'm sure he won't be crying himself to sleep about BVs tanking comments.
As I said, it was just banter and I'd do it all again tomorrow (to his face if the opportunity presented itself) in a heartbeat.
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TP's I meant - especially those with Warton callsigns, which very temporarily escape me (someone will). Hartley bro (wtfau)!
TP's I meant - especially those with Warton callsigns, which very temporarily escape me (someone will). Hartley bro (wtfau)!
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BV,
Yep. Got that. If you bait a hook, someone will bite. I hadn't commented before, but what you said was right. It was just an observation, mate.
Anyway, as for...
Really?
Yep. Got that. If you bait a hook, someone will bite. I hadn't commented before, but what you said was right. It was just an observation, mate.
Anyway, as for...
It doesn't mean we could do any better
Anyway, I have passed your comments on to the pilot in question and he will no doubt get back to you for advice soon.
Any fast jet pilot who finds themselves in an "alien environment" or "working at capacity" while doing AAR is either a QFI or from the two seat community.
Last edited by Easy Street; 30th Jan 2013 at 20:29.
Courtney
Well that's just it. Maybe I could. I just haven't tried it in an F35 yet. Maybe I'm the best God damn F35 pilot in the world. They just haven't sent me my posting notice yet.
Maybe I should check my JPA account. Now how do I do that from overseas again?
BV
Maybe I should check my JPA account. Now how do I do that from overseas again?
BV
Just give us your username and password and I'll login for you!
I know you were just bantering earlier mate - I've seen you tank! I'm just a little tired of the armchair experts of Pprune crtiticising something they've never done from the safety of their retirement homes.
I know you were just bantering earlier mate - I've seen you tank! I'm just a little tired of the armchair experts of Pprune crtiticising something they've never done from the safety of their retirement homes.
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