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Mil Aircrew - can it go lower in 2013?

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 10:45
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Of course it's pretty easy to sort the wheat from the chaff in here (and those currently serving are not immune from talking absolute drivel). Spotters and walts tend to give themselves away within about the first sentence.

If you think the Mil aircrew forum is bad, try an accident topic in R&N, the airline equivalent: 1% wheat, 99% chaff!

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 11:42
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Originally Posted by MSOCS
S-D,. . .
Not sure what YOUR credentials are but what you write matters. If its valid it will stand on its own, whether you've 3000 hrs or 3!

Whatever the case, spare us the disgusting elitism.
Firstly S-D is an engineer. Now he tells us he is not a BOF or a GOG so, looking at his posting history, this suggests that he is a B&TG.

he also said he is
I myself did over 20 years in the RAF and am still involved in several military aviation projects, including significant procurements. Hopefully that qualifies me as one of the "the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground"
but is clearly not in the RAF now so . . .








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Threads like this always remind me of using the aircrew crew room as a SAC squipper. The majority of aircrew recognised that as we spent all our time working with them it made sense for us to have access to make a brew. Every now and then though, someone would get upset by seeing 'other ranks' using the kettle and would make a fuss until we left. It didn't matter then and doesn't now.


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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 13:16
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S-D,
do you really want to ban John Farley?

For the rest of us ex-'s below that, the posts should stand on merit.
For the posts that don't, there are the mods or the ignore facility.

If you are still committed, try asking the mods for a current mil only forum. Same criteria as the company forums. See how many threads & posts you get.


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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 13:37
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Fox3, really, he said:
I'm not saying that others should not give us the benefit of their vast experiences, where would we be without being able to learn from the experience of people like Beagle, Courtney, Tuc, herkman etc?
Why BEagle even, so of course he would not have wanted to ban JF.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 13:54
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Tashengurt, still happens today on 'Biphoon' squadrons, despite the fact the squips work in the same corridor..
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 14:11
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SB, short sighted because there were some trades that could do things for you and squippers was one of them. They could ensure your flying suit was in your locker serviced and ready or not . provide big fluffy towels on the bomber bases, repair lilos, do the odd heavy stitching etc.

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 15:42
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PN, other than a general appeal for relevance (with which I would concur), S_D is saying he wants experienced input yet also implying in the preceding sentence that this can only come from those still current.

Let's not speculate - S-D, what's your proposed solution?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 15:44
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Squippers

Oh they could MUCH more than that, especially if you were a yachty type .

Wouldn't happen these days of course but back in my day.................zzzz
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Originally posted by LateArmLive:

I see where you're coming from Salad Dodger, but this forum will never change. I assume you are currently serving military aircrew
From the Salad Dodger

For info. I myself did over 20 years in the RAF and am still involved in several military aviation projects, including significant procurements. Hopefully that qualifies me as one of the "the backroom boys and girls without whom nothing
would leave the ground
"

Tech Poster from my days:
"Never assume, CHECK"

Must run, nappy to change

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 23:08
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Tashengurt, still happens today on 'Biphoon' squadrons, despite the fact the squips work in the same corridor..
I'm sure they'd grumble even more if they visited squipville for a helmet fit to find the squippers had popped over to the Eng Crewroom for a Tea Break!
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 07:22
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Its got a chance of hanging around until spring, when the bloody Weber thread will be dragged back from page 120+....
Oh, I don't know, oldwhitecrumbly. If this mild weather continues, your wish could be granted somewhat earlier.....

And just for you:


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Must have been interesting trying to skewer the beast. 5lb sledge hammer ?
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Old 4th Jan 2013, 16:25
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Sled Dog ...

BEagle might be going for a Webley this year rather than a Weber

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Old 5th Jan 2013, 00:21
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"If we learned more from history then some of the disasters such as Afghanistan and Iraq might have been avoided or at least better handled. Some of the history on PPRuNe and inputs from the past are well worth reading. "

I recall many years ago seeing a statement on a pub wall in London that read "Why are the barstewards that declare war too fecking old to fight in it"

The same barstewards don't learn the history lessons either IMHO. They won't care because their heads are not in the firing line.
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Old 15th Mar 2013, 23:57
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Seemed worth bringing this back again.

Thanks for the comments folks, although I would recommend that many of you read and comprehend before responding. My views haven't changed. In fact they've been reinforced by the number of inane threads started recently. The forum is very rapidly becoming a military version of jetblast, and that's a real shame. I have no doubt I will be flamed again by the usual city fathers and coffin dodgers.

All those that add real insight, experience and knowledge to this forum, this is not aimed at you. You don't have to be serving to do that, but you do have to know when telling tall story number 78 for the umpteenth time bores the pants off most people. (PN take note)


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Old 16th Mar 2013, 01:12
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Seemed worth bringing this back again.
Not a case of "ignored for 2 months so brought back to the top again" is it? Your thread was dead - let it rest in peace.

STP

PS Apologies for bringing this back to the top
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 08:16
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Good morning Salad Dodger ...

I clearly seem to have up set you. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion but it's just a shame you feel the need to respond in the way you have on the Rugby Thread

I enjoy the hardcore mil aviation topics on this forum that can be shared in public ... but equally there are many that enjoy the lighter side of life. To mock my mention of the sterling efforts for Red Nose Day (Quote " Crap Thread") where a total of £75m has been raised ... want's a bit of understanding.

Anyway ... No hard feelings this end ...

Best regards ...

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Old 16th Mar 2013, 10:19
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Seemed worth bringing this back again.
Probably wouldn't have needed to bump it up to the top if it'd been worth putting up in the first place, wouldn't you say?
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 11:20
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I left 10 yrs ago and now find I look less and less at the Mil Forum. I tend to scan it for interest every now and then (today). I still fly helicopters for a living and try to keep up to date with current affairs. If I feel that I have a valid input, I input it! If not, I keep my gob shut.
One thing that history shows is that despite new wonder kit and superior (!!!) young aircrew, you STILL keep making the same old mistakes as us over and over again. It is often frustrating for us BOFs to see this happening.
After completing 25 years in the RAF, I still see myself as part of the family, albeit a bit like grandad in his wheelchair. This website is not secret government property, or so serious you should be vetted before joining. IT IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!

Feel free to go elsewhere, otherwise live with it. Anyway, When I was in Belizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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