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Old 27th Jul 2013, 09:48
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I don't imagine that judge could have taken any pleasure or satisfaction with that particular day's work. Who won there then? No one that I saw. I wish there was a Ministry of Banging People's Heads Together.

Another military legal/provo time bomb?

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Old 27th Jul 2013, 11:16
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I've worn the same cap-badge as Sgt Nightingale, though that's where the comparison ends.

However, I'd argue that the more elite the unit and its serving members, the greater the responsibility there is to do things correctly. Taking home

122 x 9mm live rounds of ammunition
40 x 7.62mm live rounds of ammunition
50 x 9mm frangible rounds of ammunition
50 x 338 armour piercing live rounds of ammunition
2 x .308 live rounds of ammunition
74 x 5.56mm live rounds of ammunition
claiming to forget about it and the 9mm Glock pistol falls a long way short of that.

How many ammo declarations did he make in his career? His stories and their changes really are not credible.
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Old 27th Jul 2013, 11:32
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At the risk of heaps of sh1t dropping on me, IMHO this is the most pointless thread ever to run on PPrune - this guy did something/several things wrong, he has been tried twice and twice found guilty. Also IMHO he is fortunate to have received a suspended sentence. It is all over, drop it, walk away. The later case mentioned (the RMP L/Cpl) is potentially a more significant case.
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 07:59
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And were off for the second round.

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Old 8th Aug 2013, 08:09
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This appeal seems a bit like an EU vote....keep voting till you get the result you want.
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 08:55
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What was that quote about "the oxygen of publicity"?
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 09:05
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Starting to think the man's a cretin. To appeal against the softest of sentences for an offence he should have gone down for. Pah!


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Old 8th Aug 2013, 10:09
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Starting to think the man's a cretin
I'm not even sure it is the man of the household that is making the call on this appeal.......
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 10:13
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Just ditch the suspended part next time........
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 10:37
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This man's sympathy credit has now run out...well it has in my case and I suspect many more feel the same.
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 10:43
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All this in my view flawed process is achieving now is to bring the management of 22 SAS into question, if he was so bad why did they let him continue to serve and why did his wife a Nurse I believe not bring his condition to the attention of his superiors? She cannot have it both ways....
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 10:52
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According to the "Danny Nightingale legal fund appeal" web-site his defence, including expert witnesses and medical reports had cost nearly £300,000 by 1 Aug 2013; the "public" had also donated more than £15,000. So, it may seem that the family acknowledge that their expert witnesses were paid to give the evidence they gave (that's not unusual of course).

It also seems, from the web-site, that they are planning to hold a fundraising ball on October 19, so presumably they expect this case to drag on until some time after that.

Does the phrase "lawyers/expert witnesses/medics gravy train" come to mind?

I wonder if Danny's legal advisor is working pro bono.

Of course if the web-site is spurious then disregard all the above.

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Old 8th Aug 2013, 11:31
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I have a feeling that his wife is driving this.
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Old 21st May 2014, 01:03
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May 2014 - Nightingale loses Appeal

Nightingale loses Appeal

Danny Nightingale loses new appeal bid - Telegraph

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Old 21st May 2014, 02:59
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From one SNCO to another, Sgt Nightingale you knew what you were doing and you knew it was wrong.

Man up and act like a SNCO.
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Old 21st May 2014, 07:31
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Weapon under the bed - Guilty - suspended sentence - ridiculous - suggest he and his wife shut up. End of
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Old 21st May 2014, 07:36
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What he said

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Old 22nd May 2014, 06:16
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Sometimes you just have bite the bullet and accept this is the best you will get. You got the public sympathy vote and you used it well, the bottle is nearly empty, don't try and milk it anymore. Even superheroes can break the law.............
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Old 22nd May 2014, 06:34
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I never understood what he was trying to achieve in the first place. If he had kept his head down and been the "grey man" he would have been well looked after by regimental network. After what he has done now, he'll need to start looking at plumbing courses etc if he wants any decent employment in the long run.
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Old 22nd May 2014, 07:36
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"he'll need to start looking at plumbing courses"

The usual course for ex-military who found themselves in hot water?
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