Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Shameful - please give your support

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Shameful - please give your support

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 08:30
  #61 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Cape Town / UK / Europe
Posts: 728
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Another one. Good cause.
Tableview is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 08:33
  #62 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Grobelling through the murk to the sunshine above.
Age: 60
Posts: 562
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Signed, keep it going folks.
Pub User is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 10:24
  #63 (permalink)  
L-H
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Back to the top. Signed!
L-H is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 10:33
  #64 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Sunny Side
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
me too

what a state of affairs though, unbelievable!

S-D
salad-dodger is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 11:01
  #65 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Stratford Upon Avon UK
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Signed with pleasure...absolute disgrace
phantomstreaker is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 11:42
  #66 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: South of England
Age: 74
Posts: 627
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Whenurhappy -- #59

Wuh. Good point, well presented - but:

Young Bale probably wasn't "eloquent enough" but, equally, he probably wasn't well advised; or even advised at all.

As a senior officer you would expect to fight your corner and win, because you would make sure you were well briefed and because you had the resourcefulness to challenge the bureaucracy. Well done.

The average L Cpl (or for the sake of relating to military aviation: the average SAC) doesn't have your firepower. The average L Cpl does what he's told, because that's how he's trained, even when it comes to (amateur) summary hearings.

As a senior RAF officer you must have seen how compliant junior ranks are when faced with the boss in an orderly room. Very few contest the evidence; very few deny the so called offence.

Oh boll...s I've suddenly run out of motivation. I'm going to lie down in a dark room
SOSL is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 11:45
  #67 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Sunny Side
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
when it comes to (amateur) summary hearings.

As a senior RAF officer you must have seen how compliant junior ranks are when faced with the boss in an orderly room. Very few contest the evidence; very few deny the so called offence.
"March in the guilty bastard" as the old saying goes.

S-D
salad-dodger is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 13:15
  #68 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: South of England
Age: 74
Posts: 627
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Well said S-D and keep on keeping out of the salad!!

Rgds SOS
SOSL is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 15:12
  #69 (permalink)  
polyglory
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Duly signed over 11000 now
 
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 15:37
  #70 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: North West UK
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
11114. I'll put this about locally too... Could do with a celeb on board to get more publicity?

Copy also to LBC - son's GF well up in the editorial side.

RF.
Ringway Flyer is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 16:22
  #71 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sweden
Posts: 473
Received 150 Likes on 67 Posts
Signed, over 11,200 now. The fact that the punishment handed down in a military non-judicial disciplinary procedure is afforded the same weight as a civilian court conviction beggars belief. Which 'rocket scientist' thought that one up?
Avionker is online now  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 17:08
  #72 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Uk
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Signed. Cant beleive the cheek of some people. Makes me sick to the backteeth of the corrupt b******ds that run this country
essexlad is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 17:13
  #73 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wales
Posts: 38
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
signed post #8491, if he had been an illegal immigrant who jailed for killing a child by dangerous driving. he would have been allowed to stay as it would have contravened his human rights because he had a british born child@#@!!! The whole system sucks he is obviously an easy target for the border agency to meet its net immigration targets!!
taffyhammer is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 17:41
  #74 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Alton Hants
Age: 89
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have signed the petition as has my wife.
However I would have preferred to have signed a petition aimed directly at the Government and The Border Agency. If I am allowed to post this, this website indicates how it can be done. Usual preamble required: epetitions.direct.gov.uk/how-it-works/
As we have got so far with the petition it may be too late to change.

Where can you find a journo when you need one ?
Goprdon is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 17:49
  #75 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Lincolnshire
Posts: 543
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In!.....................
Geehovah is offline  
Old 23rd Jul 2012, 20:18
  #76 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Oxford
Age: 85
Posts: 458
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Done, 12,081. We need more!!
Bill Macgillivray is offline  
Old 24th Jul 2012, 03:35
  #77 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Philippines
Age: 81
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Where can you find a journo when you need one ?
I understand this but I stand by something I alluded to in an earlier post. Is there any intervention here from any top echelon senior officer and if not, why not ? In this day and age of dwindling morale IMHO there needs be a lot more overt support of "the troops". There is a need for a VSO to be foaming at the mouth and kicking down doors in Whitehall over this ?
Q-RTF-X is offline  
Old 24th Jul 2012, 05:02
  #78 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Taif-Saudi Arabia
Age: 64
Posts: 229
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Signed, #12700. What a load of ballcocks! One wonders what the outcome would be if he had served 13 years with the UKBA!
AGS Man is offline  
Old 24th Jul 2012, 05:23
  #79 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 411
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Done 12761 now.
Fly3 is offline  
Old 24th Jul 2012, 05:49
  #80 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,817
Received 270 Likes on 109 Posts
By my reckoning, that's 3670 signatures in 24 hours.

More needed - this appalling decision MUST be reversed!!
BEagle is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.