Scotland would get 18 fast jets plus 26 helos if it splits
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As a Carlisian, I'll vouch for that, though not all the way back to WW1... It was so bad and disrupting munition supplies they Nationalised the Brewery and Pubs to control the drinking.
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Whilst I take your points (and they are well made & valid), things are never that simple, Harry.
depends how old you are dear boy.................
"a thousand ages in your sight are like an evening gone" when you're my age..........
and just go back and look what people said at the time - the Beeb looked into a couple of them a year back and a few people were honest enough to say that maybe they had gone a bit OTT at the time
"a thousand ages in your sight are like an evening gone" when you're my age..........
and just go back and look what people said at the time - the Beeb looked into a couple of them a year back and a few people were honest enough to say that maybe they had gone a bit OTT at the time
Without wishing to contribute toi even more thread drift, but....
Whilst it doesn't actually exist in reality, I am absolutely certain that there are lots who live near late night drinking venues and lots of inner city police, ambulance and A & E staff that would still say that "all day drinking" hasn't exactly been the best thing since sliced bread. 
all day drinking
just how will the SNP man the new RSAF?? Volunteers from the RAF?
Not suggesting that RAF personnel may not have similar motivations, but for aircrew, at least they will still be flying and some will be attracted to return to, or stay in, Scotland.
One theory I have heard is that the hypothetical force would not be operating advanced combat aircraft, but something like Hawk, plus C130, Sea King, Chinook, a few maritime reconnaissance of some kind (sadly not Nimrod, think fishery protection?).
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I wonder if all the rusting hulks of nukes will be shipped back to sunny Guz or Pompey because as I see it Scotland has a Nuclear detterent does the rest of the UK?
As for economic strategy:
We will eat Shortbread and Haggis
We will drink whisky and Irn-Bru
What else do we need
As for economic strategy:
We will eat Shortbread and Haggis
We will drink whisky and Irn-Bru
What else do we need
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Thunderous
Blazing
Screaming
Roaring
Screeching
Deafening
Vibrating
Terrifying
Sound just right to me
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From a UK perspective:-
What we need = a rational non-political look at threats & resources
What we want = what we need to impress the Yanks & look better than the Frogs
What we can afford = very little
What we have = a mish -mash of some very decent aircraft and some real clunkers operated by some very good people but run by self serving SO's aiming for their "K"
What we need = a rational non-political look at threats & resources
What we want = what we need to impress the Yanks & look better than the Frogs
What we can afford = very little
What we have = a mish -mash of some very decent aircraft and some real clunkers operated by some very good people but run by self serving SO's aiming for their "K"
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Seems to me there continues to be a lot of hot air and poo being spouted here over something that's not gonna happen. Deep down, even wee Eck knows it. That's why he's trying to delay his referendum as long as possible. He's never gonna get the result he wants (if he really wants it).
There are more non-Scots posting here postulating how Scotland could not survive or defend itself without England. Their point appears to be that the ungrateful prats north of the border don't deserve us so let 'em go, we're better off without them anyway.
That is your opinion and you're entitled to it but from what I understand your senior politicians think otherwise.
There are more non-Scots posting here postulating how Scotland could not survive or defend itself without England. Their point appears to be that the ungrateful prats north of the border don't deserve us so let 'em go, we're better off without them anyway.
That is your opinion and you're entitled to it but from what I understand your senior politicians think otherwise.
Shack, I agree with a lot of that but the one thing which IS gonna happen is that - barring the end of the world etc -a Scottish independence referendum WILL be held in a little over two years' time.
You may be right that independence isnt gonna happen, but in so saying, we are doing little more than trying to predict the result of a horse race two years in advance.
I accept that there is already huge irritation with the issue, and that many of us will be even more sick of it come 2014.
There is also a lot of guff around, as you rightly say. All the more reason, I think, for developing a clearer picture before people go to the polls. This takes time. A few months ago there was very little information around as to what form a Scottish defence force might take, and now there is - some.
If this forum can't manage the occasional bit of rational discussion amongst the banter, who can?
You may be right that independence isnt gonna happen, but in so saying, we are doing little more than trying to predict the result of a horse race two years in advance.
I accept that there is already huge irritation with the issue, and that many of us will be even more sick of it come 2014.
There is also a lot of guff around, as you rightly say. All the more reason, I think, for developing a clearer picture before people go to the polls. This takes time. A few months ago there was very little information around as to what form a Scottish defence force might take, and now there is - some.
If this forum can't manage the occasional bit of rational discussion amongst the banter, who can?
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Scotish Olympicks Medals
How many will Scotland have claim to.....
I am 1/3 Scot, so do have a vested interest in the situation.
As an aside if I need a hip replaceed I will claim to be 3/3 Scot.
glf
I am 1/3 Scot, so do have a vested interest in the situation.
As an aside if I need a hip replaceed I will claim to be 3/3 Scot.
glf
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Will I be allowed to borrow any of these aircraft to fly to Ayia Napa on holiday? I promise to wear my white shell suit, white socks and white trainers, whilst wearing loads of big bling.
SCOTLAND’s athletes will remain part of Team GB at the 2016 Olympic Games even if the country separates from the UK, it emerged yesterday.
Senior Games’ officials have insisted that it would be a long time before the International Olympic Committee (IOC) allowed Scotland to compete as an independent nation.
First Minister Alex Salmond said London 2012 would be the last Games with Scots competing for Team GB.
Let's look at what other nonsense Salmond has said; "Free by 93" haha "The Union Won't see 300" haha "The Eurozone is a vote winner for independence" haha "We could be like Ireland". How can anyone listen to this man.
Senior Games’ officials have insisted that it would be a long time before the International Olympic Committee (IOC) allowed Scotland to compete as an independent nation.
First Minister Alex Salmond said London 2012 would be the last Games with Scots competing for Team GB.
Let's look at what other nonsense Salmond has said; "Free by 93" haha "The Union Won't see 300" haha "The Eurozone is a vote winner for independence" haha "We could be like Ireland". How can anyone listen to this man.