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Soldiers sacked days before pension date

Old 23rd Jun 2012, 13:15
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I did just over 13 years and received no pension, deferred or otherwise, but that was my call as I PVR'd
Chugalug, I was on a rolling 3 yrs with 18 month options. I PVR'd and phoned Glasgow because I thought it was payable at 55, they did however say because I completed over 12yrs I would get a pension at 60.
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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 13:18
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And yet... Take a police officer who throughout his career never made it beyond PC, get's promoted to SGT just before the pension qualifying period and retires 2 years later on a SGTs lump sum and pension. He's then immediatley re-employed on one of the numerous Civvy police roles that aren't subcontracted (unlike the military) and therefore pay's him a decent wage. Add on to that a lifetime of overtime fiddled by attending an incedent 'just before shift change' - gotta finish the paperwork you know.... And you'll see there's a c*cking great scam going on in this country from people in uniform that are virtually untouchable.

Any politician got the cohones to take it on?
This is a thread about how badly the MOD/government are treating armed forces personnel so why does someone have to start slagging the police off as a part of it and use hearsay and rumour more suited to the Daily Mail rather than facts to do so?

Police pensions are currently going through their second major reform in something like the last 8 years. Contributions are increasing and we are likely to go to a career average scheme. No sergeants I know have been promoted to the rank just before retiring in fact the majority seem to have served 5-10 years before either passing their promotion exams, getting a regging slot or being confirmed permanently in the rank. All the overtime I see is well and truly earnt and if we respond to an incident just before the shift changes then that is because that is what is expected of us as a part of the job. Paperwork is generally done by the most appropriate officer so arresting someone before the shift changes involves booking them into custody, an arrest statement and some sort of handover package to the next shift so that they know the circumstances of the arrest. As for being 'untouchable' as you put it the government seems to be hell bent on pissing off as many servicing constables as possible by reforming pensions, freezing pay, and getting Tom Winsor to regurgitate something Cameron wrote in 1993 and calling it an independent report, then to cap it all deciding that he is the most suitable candidate to become HMIC. Whilst all that is going on they have opened the way for privatisation with companies such as G4S being able to buy up as many police services as possible leaving only response and beat bobbies untouched.

About the only fact you managed to squeeze into your tirade from your ivory tower is that once many PC's retire they go on to work in similar roles for private companies, but isn't that what many ex forces do - pilots retire and fly for airlines or squaddies retire and join the police.
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Old 16th Jul 2012, 20:07
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Want to transfer out of AFPS into a personal pension? - Echelon Wealthcare

Al did a piece on his blog regarding opting out of the future benefits. Might be worth a read for anyone considering it.
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Old 16th Jul 2012, 21:35
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Point well made, I think.
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 17:05
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You might find this interesting..

However comma, it's still not the figure I'm curious about. The projected life expectancy might be 45.5 at 40. What is it at 55? How many die of boredom in short order?
.. how many do we know who have died just a few months/ a year or two after retiring?

BBC News - Do those who retire early live longer?
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 17:54
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Remember folks: if you have to submit any info to the pension peeps via a supplied pre-paid envelope, DO NOT LICK the envelope adhesive to seal the envelope shut!
It apparently contains a slow acting poison designed to cause death within approximately 6 months.
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 21:58
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According to report in Daily Telegraph today, 80% of army redundancies are within 1 year of qualifying for their pension. If the report is true it is an absolute disgrace. If a line is drawn then you expect some people to fall close to the line, but 80%? Utter, utter
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 22:16
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I could be wrong, but I thought that 80 soldiers were made redundant less than a year short of their IP (1.2% of all selected so far). I'm not sure what the RAF/RN figures are.
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 22:44
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Agreed. The Telegraph story I'm looking at online says
"Figures have also shown that 80 of the sacked servicemen were less than a year away from qualifying for an immediate pension, costing them around 300,000 in lost benefits."
Defence cuts: Anger in the ranks as top brass survive cull - Telegraph
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