Voyager: AT Aircraft Only??
That's much more balanced article, BEags, thanks for the post. I can only imagine the snag is either a pressure issue or the conection between the probe tip and the drogue - neither should be that hard to fix. Anyone heard anything about the nature of the fault?
The AHARS fit on the Hawk made a massive difference. I flew the old system in training and it was adequate, but not great. I'm sure it would have been worth delaying its release for, especially comparing it with anything else that was around at the time - apart from INs, obviously.
The HS2 route is going to follow the old line a lot of the way. Maybe AirTanker should have looked at the old route a bit more carefully in the design phase.
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The AHARS fit on the Hawk made a massive difference. I flew the old system in training and it was adequate, but not great. I'm sure it would have been worth delaying its release for, especially comparing it with anything else that was around at the time - apart from INs, obviously.
The HS2 route is going to follow the old line a lot of the way. Maybe AirTanker should have looked at the old route a bit more carefully in the design phase.
Courtney
BEagle: Thanks too for the link to the PA article. It suggests that 10 Sqn's chaps and chapesses may now be able to get to work in one major role, and I'm sure there will be some relief at unit level about that.
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I suggest that those quick to slander Voyager as another PFI waste of money do some more extensive reading before throwing their two pence in the pot. Things are not as bad as they seem. From your responses so far we are damned if we do and damned if we don't in terms of providing this new airframe!
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So can you use the toilets whilst receivers are astern yet? And can those receivers close at enough knots to make anything other than a soft contact that won't properly mate and therefore leaks fuel?
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Just out of interest but can they not use them at the moment for pax work?
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So can you use the toilets whilst receivers are astern yet? And can those receivers close at enough knots to make anything other than a soft contact that won't properly mate and therefore leaks fuel?
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From what I understand, the problems aren't too big and the feeling is that it can be sorted PDQ. I just want to see this beast in service. Hungry for the capability, which will, by all acounts, be worth having.
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Close at enough knots?
If you mean what I think you mean, Tornado and Typhoon can both smack the basket right in the middle as hard as you like. That is not the problem.
If you mean what I think you mean, Tornado and Typhoon can both smack the basket right in the middle as hard as you like. That is not the problem.
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If I remember correctly the Tornado was restricted to 50psi maximum refuel pressure, could the problem be that simple with other aircraft but not the Typhoon having higher limits and therefore less susceptical to tanker equipment outputing at up to 50psi?
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It's not just pressure, it's flow rate. Offloading into an E3 from the Trimotor, we put on up to 8 electric pumps and the 2 Carters and still didn't get anywhere near the pressure limit.
Tornado, irrespective of variant was always a pain getting the last tonne onboard. They'd burn loads of our fuel with one in reheat to stay in contact 'topping up'.
No surprises with the Voyager I'm afraid, I've been following it, for professional reasons, this capability just keeps moving to the right.
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Tornado, irrespective of variant was always a pain getting the last tonne onboard. They'd burn loads of our fuel with one in reheat to stay in contact 'topping up'.
No surprises with the Voyager I'm afraid, I've been following it, for professional reasons, this capability just keeps moving to the right.
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Whilst they use one of the frames to sort the tanking issues out is there any reason why the one currently at Brize can't do pax/freight runs and start earning its keep. Got to be better than moving it around the pan at Brize from bay to bay then back to the hangar etc....?
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Clearly many people are not in the know with the master plan. 
The recent progress made by AirTanker is absolutely outstanding and a testimonial to the hard work of all their team and their specialist advisors.
The recent progress made by AirTanker is absolutely outstanding and a testimonial to the hard work of all their team and their specialist advisors.
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The recent progress made by AirTanker is absolutely outstanding and a testimonial to the hard work of all their team and their specialist advisors