Mess Bar Gross Percentage Profit - What's yours?
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Mess Bar Gross Percentage Profit - What's yours?
Secret Oxon Air Base is dropping its GPP from an eye wateringly high 22% to 14%..thankfully!
Lyneham was around the same figure, Benson's is 18%. What's it in the Mess with you?
Lyneham was around the same figure, Benson's is 18%. What's it in the Mess with you?
If you think 18% or even 22% is high, just work out what it is in the pub - they pay a bit less a barrel because of their turnover and then get a barrelage rebate at the end of the month, but it is probably still way over 100%
If you think 18% or even 22% is high, just work out what it is in the pub - they pay a bit less a barrel because of their turnover and then get a barrelage rebate at the end of the month, but it is probably still way over 100%
100% GPP not possible unless they get it for free.
Think you will find that the Mess purchases alcohol through a National deal with national prices from the brewers, rather than individual deals, which could be fraught with opportunities for personal enrichment for those of a mind.
The closure of 15-20 pubs every week tell you how profitable !!! running a pub isn't.
100% GPP not possible unless they get it for free.
GPP inder 100% is shorthand - it is 122%, as double cost price is 200%. GPP is merely a check that all the cash is in: what matters is net profit - what is left after wages, wastage, other costs (orange or lemon slices, free nuts etc) and so on.
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Was Officers' Mess Sec at Cholaveram (Madras) in 1945. Bought Carew's gin (quite palatable in long drinks) at 65 rupees for a blue pot four-gallon jar. Got 4 rupees back on the empty. At four annas a tot, and "six-out" tots, we grossed 192 rupees on the 61 outlay. I make it 215% Not bad going, but the squash, etc cost half of the profit.
In later days was a VAT man to eke out pension, did a lot of pubs in this area 1974-86. They made about 50% on beer and 100% on spirits in those days. Probably a lot more south of Watford now!
Danny42C
In later days was a VAT man to eke out pension, did a lot of pubs in this area 1974-86. They made about 50% on beer and 100% on spirits in those days. Probably a lot more south of Watford now!
Danny42C
Sorry guys you mixing up Markup and Margin..............there is a real difference.
As Stuff
says buy £1 and
Sell at £3 you have marked up by
200% but your margin or
Gross profit is 66%....
Not possible to get Margin / GP more than 100%
As Stuff
says buy £1 and
Sell at £3 you have marked up by
200% but your margin or
Gross profit is 66%....
Not possible to get Margin / GP more than 100%
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Chivenor, late sixties. Horror of horrors! A fruit machine had been installed in the bar. This could be adjusted to retain various percentages of money put in and was therfore set to maximise payout. At this time Saudi students used the bar but did not drink of course. However they spent most of their off time around said machine ( and large sums of money) generating lashings of profit for the mess, which if not used had to be sent off to a central fund. Not a good idea so various free entertainments in the mess thanks to our Muslim students.
And a thought crosses my mind, with the contraction of the RAF and closure of so many messes what happened to this central fund which we were told was to provide a start up float for new messes. There can't have been many opened since 1969! Maybe you should all be drinking for free on the bar profits of your predecessors!
And a thought crosses my mind, with the contraction of the RAF and closure of so many messes what happened to this central fund which we were told was to provide a start up float for new messes. There can't have been many opened since 1969! Maybe you should all be drinking for free on the bar profits of your predecessors!
A fruit machine had been installed in the bar. This could be adjusted to retain various percentages of money put in and was therfore set to maximise payout.
It too had a variable payout control. So, before leaving for work each morning, the student Mess Committee member would turn the payout control down to its minimum setting. Of course the permanent staff and others who frequented the bar at lunchtime would have little luck with the thing. Then, during 'Nelson's Hour' when the bar was shut for the bar staff's evening break, he'd turn the payout control up to maximum - so we students could subsequently reap the benefits of the ground pounders' lunchtime sessions.
They never did find out.....
Secret Oxon Air Base is dropping its GPP from an eye wateringly high 22% to 14%..thankfully!
Even when we think we are being done over, I suspect we are still getting a pretty good deal compared to outside. Civvie friends over the years have taken great delight in the expected look of horror and accompanying comments whenever the bill arrives. But when I think back to Bentley Priory and 35p / pint - well it was Fosters - at Happy Hour on a Friday, I think I can be excused the occassional heart attack at being charged £8 for a single shot.
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I would have to take exception to you there.
There are equally bad wines, spirits and ales knocking around that do nobody's reputation any good to be seen drinking. And if in the Mess, I would hope that they wouldn't do the Wines Member's health much good either as they are strung up for bringing them in in the first place.
Actually, your comment reminds me of that rather splendid thread that ran last year I think - somebody asking for advice about attending a function / At Home at their bosses house I think it was. This very point was covered there and I think the consensus amongst the more relaxed or enlightened members was that an individual should be able to drink what they like; the whole point is that the right company is key and an individual should feel able to relax rather than being tortured by being forced to drink something they really can't stand. I for one loathe red wine and will tolerate white, but love a good quality larger (and no I don't mean Fosters any more); I wouldn't dream of thinking less of anybody else just because they happen to like wine
I would have to take exception to you there.
There are equally bad wines, spirits and ales knocking around that do nobody's reputation any good to be seen drinking. And if in the Mess, I would hope that they wouldn't do the Wines Member's health much good either as they are strung up for bringing them in in the first place.
Actually, your comment reminds me of that rather splendid thread that ran last year I think - somebody asking for advice about attending a function / At Home at their bosses house I think it was. This very point was covered there and I think the consensus amongst the more relaxed or enlightened members was that an individual should be able to drink what they like; the whole point is that the right company is key and an individual should feel able to relax rather than being tortured by being forced to drink something they really can't stand. I for one loathe red wine and will tolerate white, but love a good quality larger (and no I don't mean Fosters any more); I wouldn't dream of thinking less of anybody else just because they happen to like wine
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A bit off thread, but; well actually quite a lot off thread, but:
towards the end of my time I had to interview a young officer who had had an unfortunate accident during an impromtu party in the mess one evening.
My first question was "what did you have to drink?". She immediately replied "It was a party, you didn't have to drink anything you could drink what you liked". She was a major contributor to the mess markup, gross profit, net profit, target profit etc etc.
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towards the end of my time I had to interview a young officer who had had an unfortunate accident during an impromtu party in the mess one evening.
My first question was "what did you have to drink?". She immediately replied "It was a party, you didn't have to drink anything you could drink what you liked". She was a major contributor to the mess markup, gross profit, net profit, target profit etc etc.
Rgds SOS