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Old 1st Apr 2012, 16:38
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Originally Posted by racedo
Think you will find that the Mess purchases alcohol through a National deal with national prices from the brewers, rather than individual deals, which could be fraught with opportunities for personal enrichment for those of a mind.
Is that true?

Things have changed. I remember when bar officers could strike deals with brewers. Typically the mess would be tied to one brewer for a specified period of time but in return it would receive free guest beers (I remember Whitbread Trophy was one). Or they might provide money to refurbish the bar.

There can't have been many opened since 1969!
How about Goose Bay, Ascension, Mount Pleasant?, Stanley? No idea if they all got money and certainly never on the scale of new messes like Brize Norton which may have been the only major one in UK post-WW2. West Drayton was also a new Mess. I think Scampton and Coningsby may also have been given grants.

I wonder how much money is in the Central Fund and how it is spent?

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Originally Posted by Melchett01
I . . . love a good quality larger (and no I don't mean Fosters any more)
This is gross deviation and could make a new thread.

What larger is acceptable?

Now I prefer a smaller lager () like Peroni and would avoid Becks and not even consider that that American drink, beings with a B IIRC. Draught Heineken has been known to slip passed my lips (I think but memory was usually wiped clean the next day.)
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Off thread but in 1978 I had the choice between staying in the RAF with a promise of being a Specialist Aircrew Sqn.Ldr. At the same time the admin wallers in Strike Command had directed that bar purchases would be paid in cash.

Having spent some eighteen years in the RAF where my credit in the bar was infallible I decided, as I was not to be trusted, to seek my fortune in the civil world.
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Is that true?

Things have changed. I remember when bar officers could strike deals with brewers. Typically the mess would be tied to one brewer for a specified period of time but in return it would receive free guest beers (I remember Whitbread Trophy was one). Or they might provide money to refurbish the bar.
Can't say for definite but having a National Deal gets you a better price and avoids Brewers offeing £££ and other deals to bar officers bribe their way in.
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Akronelli, early 80s. GPP running at 25% - more than double the rest of the world - GMF enormous, 'welcome' barrels timed for when the APCs were still working but the locals had stopped and were therefore available to drain said barrel themselves. Christmas Draw and Summer Ball (and GNs?) attendance for free, but only if you were "permanent staff", others not welcome. And all paid for by the volume of trade over the bar from the APC sqns and the Boneyard (but not before any of us went near the flag, of course...).
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Fortissimo, mmmm.

Something similar at Goose. We were asked to bring some real ale across from UK which at no little inconvenience we did. The Mess then announced a happy hour party with real ale for the evening of the day of our departure. At the time I think honourary members out numbered PS 10:1. To say we were pleased . . .
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Melch,

You only went off Fosters when you rose after the 'A"' thing - one more rise and you will be off Larger and into Malbec - you will then understand my wisdom. (if not the pims are on me - oh and if I come to your place, I might be persuaded as long as it is above 13% profit!)
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Yes but, depending on one's preferences, the Savoy has a considerable superior ambiance than any OM I have ever been in and it has to be paid for somehow!
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Not sure about that. Last time I was in the Savoy, the ambience was a bit stilted and lacking in the sort of comfort you get in an OM. The staff were tremendous but the other customers weren't even close to the standard of the guys and gals you normally meet in the OM.

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