Grammar. Spelling and Punctuation
Jayand,
I cannot and would not argue with your sentiment and I applaud what you say. What we discuss here means no disrespect to those six fine men. But understand that neither we nor anyone else will shut down what we do every time our brothers fall. Life goes on, Buddy. That doesn't mean I'm not respectful or upset by what has happened. This ridiculous forum is not related in any way to what has happened and keeps happening in AFG. Or anywhere else. Would you have us all shut down every time this happens?
I say again, I agree with your sentiment.
I cannot and would not argue with your sentiment and I applaud what you say. What we discuss here means no disrespect to those six fine men. But understand that neither we nor anyone else will shut down what we do every time our brothers fall. Life goes on, Buddy. That doesn't mean I'm not respectful or upset by what has happened. This ridiculous forum is not related in any way to what has happened and keeps happening in AFG. Or anywhere else. Would you have us all shut down every time this happens?
I say again, I agree with your sentiment.
Courtney
Just so you know, someone has registered an account under the name "Cuortney Mil" and is sending people (me, at least) offensive messages via PM in response to this thread.
Ewan
Just so you know, someone has registered an account under the name "Cuortney Mil" and is sending people (me, at least) offensive messages via PM in response to this thread.
Ewan
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia - South of where I'd like to be !
Age: 59
Posts: 4,261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ewan
Thanks for the above post. That's what is needed plus in future report it to the mods. CM is onto it.
I'd suggest keeping an eye out in the Members list to make sure you haven't been "duplicated" !
Thanks for the above post. That's what is needed plus in future report it to the mods. CM is onto it.
I'd suggest keeping an eye out in the Members list to make sure you haven't been "duplicated" !
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: .
Posts: 2,173
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
so I'm not the only one getting these faked PMs
see http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...-used-pms.html
see http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...-used-pms.html
Last edited by Milo Minderbinder; 11th Mar 2012 at 00:11.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The real world
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Courtney mil, I don't want to stop anybody talking about what they want on an open forum and agree that life goes on but, waffling on about such drivel is pathetic, especially after their sad loss. This thread is not even military related let alone aviation related!
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: .
Posts: 2,173
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jayand
May I suggest that you have the same option as has been pointed out by others before?
Firstly, if you don't wish to constructively debate a topic, or if that topic has no interest to you then ignore it. Don't read it If others share your opinion, the topic will die through neglect. If others disagree, then the thread will perpetuate and you will find that you are in a minority.
The corollory is that if you wish to discuss a specific subject such as the recent fatalities then there is no reason why you should not start such a thread yourself. If others also feel inclined to think the same way as you, then that topic will perpetuate and you will able to regard yourself as vindicated.
In the meantime, while you may not "want to stop anybody talking about what they want on an open forum", its clear from Ewan's post that someone does, and that someone is quite probably a poster in this thread. It would be interesting to speculate just who that person is, but I'll leave that to others to consider..
May I suggest that you have the same option as has been pointed out by others before?
Firstly, if you don't wish to constructively debate a topic, or if that topic has no interest to you then ignore it. Don't read it If others share your opinion, the topic will die through neglect. If others disagree, then the thread will perpetuate and you will find that you are in a minority.
The corollory is that if you wish to discuss a specific subject such as the recent fatalities then there is no reason why you should not start such a thread yourself. If others also feel inclined to think the same way as you, then that topic will perpetuate and you will able to regard yourself as vindicated.
In the meantime, while you may not "want to stop anybody talking about what they want on an open forum", its clear from Ewan's post that someone does, and that someone is quite probably a poster in this thread. It would be interesting to speculate just who that person is, but I'll leave that to others to consider..
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jayand,
I disagree with you. Life is multi-facetted and the trivial and boring both have their place. There is absolutely no relationship whatsoever between this thread and the current casualty count in Helmand. I will wager that some or all of those brave boys will have had hobbies, pastimes or interests that others would find dull or irrelevant. I see no reason whatsoever to end this thread. I certainly don't see why you would in light of a fatality.
I also happen to disagree with something else you said. Their deaths are tragic, but I do not believe that their loss was pointless. That's a different thread.
As ever, we disagree only because brave boys like that provide us with the freedom to do so.
I disagree with you. Life is multi-facetted and the trivial and boring both have their place. There is absolutely no relationship whatsoever between this thread and the current casualty count in Helmand. I will wager that some or all of those brave boys will have had hobbies, pastimes or interests that others would find dull or irrelevant. I see no reason whatsoever to end this thread. I certainly don't see why you would in light of a fatality.
I also happen to disagree with something else you said. Their deaths are tragic, but I do not believe that their loss was pointless. That's a different thread.
As ever, we disagree only because brave boys like that provide us with the freedom to do so.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Why oh why would I wanna be anywhere else?
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
This thread is not even military related let alone aviation related!
An officer, as a leader in a military force, needs to be able to communicate in such a manner as to be readily understood and not misunderstood. Grammar and the correct use of the language that one was brought up to speak and write is an integral part of that ability.
Other Ranks have no immediate need for such a consummate skill until they reach a position where they also need to be able to communicate - so it's OK if they talk and write in gibberish. One could have argued that some who graduated from IOT should have been in this position.
Those who argue on this thread that correct writing has no place are either of the latter category, an OR, or, horror of horrors, a civilian.
Phil
From the Longman Dictionary of Linguistics:
split infinitive n
(in composition) a sentence in which the word to in an infinitive has been separated from the base of the verb making the sentence awkward to read. For example: She asked me to as quickly as possible drop over to her house. Without the split infinitive this would be: She asked me to drop over to her house as quickly as possible. In some sentences, however, the split infinitive is appropriate. For example: We expect to more than double profits this year.
From the Longman Dictionary of Linguistics:
split infinitive n
(in composition) a sentence in which the word to in an infinitive has been separated from the base of the verb making the sentence awkward to read. For example: She asked me to as quickly as possible drop over to her house. Without the split infinitive this would be: She asked me to drop over to her house as quickly as possible. In some sentences, however, the split infinitive is appropriate. For example: We expect to more than double profits this year.
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The real world
Posts: 446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Orca, you are so right this thread may not suit everyone (me especially) and the tragic loss of life has nothing to do with it whatsoever. I was merely trying to trivialise the subject of the thread at a time when other things far more important than grammar are going on.
I do have a choice and I do have a voice, and to try and link this thread to aviation or military by suggesting it's importance to commissioned Officers is tenuous at best, grasping at straws seems more likely!
I do have a choice and I do have a voice, and to try and link this thread to aviation or military by suggesting it's importance to commissioned Officers is tenuous at best, grasping at straws seems more likely!
More bang for your buck
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: land of the clanger
Age: 82
Posts: 3,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The most well known split infinitive is: "To boldly go where no man has gone before", it should be: "To go boldly....."
This is a useful resource: Grammar Topics: Adverbs,verbs,adjectives,determiners,articles,conditionals, prepositions etc...
This is a useful resource: Grammar Topics: Adverbs,verbs,adjectives,determiners,articles,conditionals, prepositions etc...
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Other Ranks have no immediate need for such a consummate skill until they reach a position where they also need to be able to communicate - so it's OK if they talk and write in gibberish
the very backwards nemesis.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Detroit MI
Age: 66
Posts: 1,460
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jayand:
Here is a perfect example of something you really need to learn. I read this thread because I thought it might be somewhat amusing. It was. Upon completion I returned to the Military Aircrew forum and scanned on down. My eyes lit upon a thread entitled "How many more lives".
"Fair enough", I thought, "That might be an opinion of interest to me." and was about to click on it when I noticed the author and decided that my interest had been lost and I moved on. It's the internet and you are responsible for your own filtration. You have a perfect right to scribble away but you do not have the right to be listened to and this was a perfect example of how it should work.
BTW, no disrespect to the fallen, I said my piece elsewhere.
Orca, you are so right this thread may not suit everyone (me especially) and the tragic loss of life has nothing to do with it whatsoever. I was merely trying to trivialise the subject of the thread at a time when other things far more important than grammar are going on.
I do have a choice and I do have a voice, and to try and link this thread to aviation or military by suggesting it's importance to commissioned Officers is tenuous at best, grasping at straws seems more likely!
I do have a choice and I do have a voice, and to try and link this thread to aviation or military by suggesting it's importance to commissioned Officers is tenuous at best, grasping at straws seems more likely!
"Fair enough", I thought, "That might be an opinion of interest to me." and was about to click on it when I noticed the author and decided that my interest had been lost and I moved on. It's the internet and you are responsible for your own filtration. You have a perfect right to scribble away but you do not have the right to be listened to and this was a perfect example of how it should work.
BTW, no disrespect to the fallen, I said my piece elsewhere.
Room for misunderstanding ? ........
What is this thing called fire ?
What is this thing called ? Fire ?
What is this thing called ? Fire !
What! Is this thing called fire ?
I'll get my coat !
What is this thing called fire ?
What is this thing called ? Fire ?
What is this thing called ? Fire !
What! Is this thing called fire ?
I'll get my coat !
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: England
Posts: 576
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I feel much better for reading most of the posts featured on this particular thread as it gives me the impression that whatever I write, I can or will be found wanting, so I might as well not worry about it!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Glasgow
Age: 61
Posts: 909
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
P6 Driver,
What exactly is "it"? I have always wondered what "it" might be. Is "it" the same for everyone who worries about "it"?
so I might as well not worry about it!
Last edited by hval; 11th Mar 2012 at 15:09. Reason: Getting P6 Drivers' Name Wrong