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Old 11th Jul 2012, 18:17
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MoD fury as soldiers forced to carry out menial security tasks for Olympic Games - Telegraph
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Old 11th Jul 2012, 19:57
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I think we could see this coming since about 2005. What a clusterf---. As usual the forces are doing more with less, covering other people's arses. Let's just hope the firemen don't go out on strike at the same time.
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I tell you what, if I was forced to do this f*cking demeaning job of a glorified car park attendant and forced to sleep in base hangar I would have traffic jams back to Liverpool by 10am and no one and I mean no one would be going anywhere in a car.


All you need to do is screw the system up big time and tie it in knots and by the time they figure it out they would be screwed.
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Nobody is being made to sleep in Base Hangar.
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I believe there may also be a shortage of itinerant Eastern European casual labourers for the Norfolk asparagus picking trade this season. Polish your wellies chaps, we're going in.
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only because a risk assessment said too risky....
Seriously - I think a cunning plan is in order - Crow's thieving unionites get a fortune and you'se all get shafted.....

So have a wee sitdown plan with a few of the lads - work out how BIG a chaos engine you can create and do so.........

What was the urban myth..... take out four traffic light control units in central london on key points and it all goes gridlock
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Old 11th Jul 2012, 20:23
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From the outside, looking in, I think that you lads and lasses have been completely shafted for this by the politicians.

What about those with leave with families booked over the school summer holidays - are you in anyway compensated for the costs if you have leave cancelled ?

Meanwhile for the army guys, are they suddenly looking to get the TA out of their regular workplaces for two months (which might include a couple of chaps at my place) just to overcome the issue that G4S have completely messed up their organisation due to complete incompetence with recruitment, and desperation to pay minimum wages while charging LOCOG maximum prices ?
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I notice no one has mentioned who is paying for all the MoD people.

Will G4S be billed at top rates or is the Gov't going to wear it just
so the Olympics looks good ?
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Simply redirect traffic back on itself then time for tea and biccies.. Or security check cars, and stop every car you deem suspicious...... what can they do? Nothing you are doing your job, that should get you out of it free and clear. You could quite easily shut down car parks whilst it is being dealt with.

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Old 11th Jul 2012, 20:39
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The trouble is, you start doing that and you end up hurting good old Joe Public and their families whose fault this isn't. Would you like it if you had a potentially once in a lifetime family outing planned with your kids and it was ruined by someone playing silly buggers?
Not defending the way this has been handled but I don't think that is the answer IMHO.
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True, but it would be easily rectified by replacing him.
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So, these military people are under the command and control of a private company that has already demonstrated its incompetence? This could be fun ...
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A friend of mine, retired cop, applied for a job as a supervisor with them for a four month gig (in Scotland) to cover the Olympic stuff. He thought it might make a wee change from his normal job, and with his decent police pension he can afford to be picky.

A few months ago, he told me he had applied and put me down as a ref.

About 4 weeks ago they called him and said he was in, subject to vetting.

Then they asked him to travel from Scotlandshire to London, at his own expense, stay three nights in London, at his own expense, and travel home after attending a two day training course.

He told them where to shove it.

Two weeks ago they asked him to attend a training course in Glasgow to be qualified as a night club bouncer.

He told them to shove it.

At the end of last week, G4S called me to check out his references and told me (confidentially) that he would be getting a letter this week offering him a job.

I'm expecting him to tell them to shove it.


So, if that's typical of how they are going about the recruitment process, no wonder they are having issues. I'm surprised that hey didn't ask the MOD for help sooner. If we are all in this together, how many civil servants are being sent to kip in TA halls or live on ships?
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So they have offered him a job and haven't even met the person ?

I agree, they have obviously cocked up the whole thing.
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They offered him two jobs before they did the vetting. How many others have slipped through that particular hole in the net?
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So you have people who could potentially be doing security checks not having been vetted ? Almost as bad as Heathrow Airport !!!
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At the very least they will have people who fail vetting, after having attended the training course.

Sounds ideal for a terrorist gathering intel.

Then trying to pass himself off as a member of the team, he meets folk who were on his course and they accept him on the basis that they were in training together.

WAFU!
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So, these military people are under the command and control of a private company that has already demonstrated its incompetence? This could be fun ...
Beats being under the command and control of a 'public' company (MoD) that has continually demonstrated its incompetence. Same ****, different uniform....
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Old 12th Jul 2012, 06:31
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Originally Posted by airpolice
A few months ago, he told me he had applied and put me down as a ref.

About 4 weeks ago they called him and said he was in, subject to vetting.

Then they asked him to travel from Scotlandshire to London, at his own expense, stay three nights in London, at his own expense, and travel home after attending a two day training course.

He told them where to shove it.

Two weeks ago they asked him to attend a training course in Glasgow to be qualified as a night club bouncer.

He told them to shove it.

At the end of last week, G4S called me to check out his references and told me (confidentially) that he would be getting a letter this week offering him a job.
When this story broke yesterday, it was covered at length on LBC Radio in London, a news and phone-in station. Listener after listener phoned in with accounts exactly along these lines, of worthwhile applicants messed about and ignored, checks out of sequence, you name it. The radio journalist was astounded at such a series of stories about the screwed way the whole process had been managed.
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Old 12th Jul 2012, 06:50
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Its a joke. The business of business and government has become so top heavy; so festooned with over paid, self important people chucking out chaff to conceal their own duplicated and pointless jobs that nothing gets done. More effort is spent presenting the mission than executing the mission.
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