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Old 31st Jan 2012, 21:07
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Sorry to dampen all you warmongerers but lets be honest there wont be another war down there anytime soon! Dauntless is just a gentle reminder.
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 21:17
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 23:06
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Originally Posted by just another jocky
12 miles...that's a little close for comfort isn't it?

If it was too dangerous to even get airborne, I'd just park the jet on the end of the runway pointing out to sea, makes the Butt (sp?) switch and loose off a couple of anti-ship missiles if that were the case.
Amazingly it can shoot down missiles as well as aircraft.

I think the problem is that the advances in technology aren't readily obvious, but suffice to say that a single T45 is more capable in the air defence role than everything sent down in 82.
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 23:16
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Amazingly it can shoot down missiles as well as aircraft.

I think the problem is that the advances in technology aren't readily obvious, but suffice to say that a single T45 is more capable in the air defence role than everything sent down in 82.
Thats all fine but 40 missiles followed by same followed by same and pretty much end of ball game as MOD is not keeping hundreds on board.

Relying on defence assets is great but they all have to work at the same time and keep doing so................
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 06:27
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Lets hope they've issued this ship more than 4 missiles...
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 08:05
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And lets hope the CIWS/Phalanx/Goalkeepers have finally been fitted too....
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 12:43
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Phalanx fitted last summer.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 20:14
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ust how many aircraft could the type 45 defend at the same time anyway?
Hmm whether she runs out of reloads or targets first methinks....
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 20:22
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Seeing as how no Navy has EVER had to face an attack by anywhere near 40 missiles at the same time in the missile age I think that T45 with its 48 Sea Vipers will be fine. Isn't that more missiles than the Argentines have fast jets?
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 20:35
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Lets hope the bean counters have given them a full magazine and a few reloads.

Otherwise it's cowpats at 25 yards
 
Old 1st Feb 2012, 21:08
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Seeing as how no Navy has EVER had to face an attack by anywhere near 40 missiles at the same time in the missile age I think that T45 with its 48 Sea Vipers will be fine. Isn't that more missiles than the Argentines have fast jets?
No Navy ever lost a ship to an airplane until the 1st one.........

Just because something hasn't been done doesn't mean it will never be done.

USS Cole lost out to something a lot less than a missile.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 21:13
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I think the problem is that the advances in technology aren't readily obvious, but suffice to say that a single T45 is more capable in the air defence role than everything sent down in 82.
Maybe so, but eggs and baskets spring to mind in this scenario.
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 21:16
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48 missiles but only 8 launchers?
How fast can it reload?
DON'T answer that - hypothetical / rhetorical point only
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Old 1st Feb 2012, 22:28
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"48 missiles but only 8 launchers?"

Irrespective of your question being "hypothetical / rhetorical", what launchers and what reload? The Type 45 has a VLS (Vertical Launch System) incorporating silos. 48 Sea Vipers in a VLS is a vast improvement on a twin launcher with 22 Sea Darts (Type 42 Batches 2 & 3) or 40 Sea Darts (Type 42 Batch 3).

The classic layer-defence system would have CAP taking out most of the shooters (air or surface) before they got within target acquisition / identification range anyway leaving the Type 45 to deal with any leakers with its hard kill and soft kill countermeasures.
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Old 2nd Feb 2012, 09:21
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Originally Posted by Milo Minderbinder
48 missiles but only 8 launchers?
How fast can it reload?
DON'T answer that - hypothetical / rhetorical point only
Each launcher has 8 slots and there are 6 on the deck, hence 48 slots.

Should the entire Argentine air force arrive, all 48 could be fired in 10 seconds.
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Old 2nd Feb 2012, 18:08
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The classic layer-defence system would have CAP taking out most of the shooters (air or surface) before they got within target acquisition / identification range anyway

Anyone care to spot the obvious capability holiday?
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Old 3rd Feb 2012, 10:56
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Originally Posted by Not_a_boffin
before they got within target acquisition / identification range anyway
Bear in mind that target acquisition is now 'when they take off', so unless you're planning a bombing mission on the mainland I don't see how that would work.
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Old 6th Feb 2012, 11:54
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Are all of her systems actually fitted and functioning or was she obtained through the "Smart Procurement" process?


My thoughts exactly.

"for many years there have been VERY cheap and VERY quick and easy ways to render all Falklands airfields useless for defence in about 10-20 minutes (by green minded attackers)."

Quite.
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Old 6th Feb 2012, 13:10
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...for many years there have been VERY cheap and VERY quick and easy ways to render all Falklands airfields useless for defence in about 10-20 minutes (by green minded attackers).
Shout "Fore!" and use a driver off the tee?
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Old 7th Feb 2012, 01:07
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The T-45 has no "launchers", irregardless of what that article mistakenly says.

The VLS cells come in a "box" of 6, there are 8 "boxes" aboard... but all 48 cells have their own lid, and the missiles inside can fire independently of any other cell.
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