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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 13:22
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The "intensive" downwash argument helped steer the RAF away from Puma/Super Puma SAR, many years ago.

Yet we found during wet drills that we could trap the liferaft and then bring the Puma down to a wheels on water height to allow "survivors" to climb directly into the cabin.

Obviously, we kept it quiet, to make sure the yellowjob winch-ops didn't get put up for redundancy...
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 13:48
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The move from the Wessex to Sea King did involve increasing hover heights to mitigate the downwash but the Merlin has a very concentrated downwash due to disc loading and blade design that takes it into another league entirely.
So....does that mean the V-22 with its phenomenal downwash is not a candidate for over-water SAR? Why think of the range, speed, and endurance the aircraft advertises!

Three or a dozen....surely the "need" is secondary to capacity because when you need the capacity it is surely a life or death situation is it not?
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 13:59
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I also think the Danes and particularly the Canadians might not be that satisfied with it on reliability and availability grounds
Can't speak for the Danes, but the Canadians admit that much of the availability shortfall which they have experienced was a self hack because they omitted a proper spares/support package from the deal to buy the aircraft.

Gievn that our procurement always runs on rails, maybe the Merlin is a likely candidate after all...
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 18:25
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Torque,

Fair point about the Canadians. It's the same issue that hamstrung the Brit Merlin which, with adequate spares support, is a very reliable cab given it's complexity. At one point a few years back it wasn't possible to put a serviceable Mk 3 on the line because there were no spare landing lamp bulbs! Incidents like this, to the uninformed, meant the aircraft was categorically 'unreliable'.

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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 18:34
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Well pedantically the uninformed would be correct..
Like so much modem military kit the Merlin is a "system" - and its the "system" that' has broken down.
You can't tell the public that on one hand the Merlin is a complete packaged system, but then claim the Merlin is only an airframe when the system goes wrong..
Time for consistency in nomenclature - or even a completely new nomenclature to differentiate between "Merlin the system" and "Merlin the aircraft"
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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 18:40
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COCL2,

Fair point.

As an aside, using the word 'pedantically' in the same breath as such poor grammar/spelling may not be the wisest.

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Old 23rd Dec 2011, 18:43
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Yeah you're right... memo to self: buy bigger computer screen so I can see what I'm typing
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