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Courtney, sometimes I think - may be it would be better to feed enimies from outside then theives from inside - from our own government
Green Flash, can you imaging how were we happy, being posted in those assholes after Military Academies and Military Universities? I still remember these 28 months in the Regt near Ussuriysk, where in wintertime was -25..-30°C (-13..-22 °F) and without the snow because of wind that blows all the snow away.
Green Flash, can you imaging how were we happy, being posted in those assholes after Military Academies and Military Universities? I still remember these 28 months in the Regt near Ussuriysk, where in wintertime was -25..-30°C (-13..-22 °F) and without the snow because of wind that blows all the snow away.
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Hi Serge,
Thank you so much for posting that Youtube clip.... I HATE COLD WEATHER, hence I live in the South-West of England. I felt so sorry for that child who lost their hat!! Thank goodness they did not get run over trying to recover it. To put things in perspective my children who are now in their late twenties have only ever seen snow once in their lives and that was last year!!
I agree with you when you state how your ships would easily deal with the current sea conditions. I served on a frigate that was just over 2500 tons and she would easily have sailed through those types of sea. I have fond memories regarding some pilots that if the need arose would fly their wasp helicopter in hurricane force winds!!
(not all of them would)
I guess landing a helicopter on the moving ride of a big dipper might, just might be more difficult, but in Force 12 or 13 hurricane force winds with the ship going up and down like a see-saw and rolling from side to side, with ice on the decks and of course the ship trying to make head-way is not something I would be first in the queue to try. Then once safely down on the deck having to rely on the deck handlers to run out with strops to lash the thing down. That takes HUGE cajones.
RESPECT with a capital 'R' to these brave men in their flying machines
Who really knows why that Russian group of ships decided to pay us a visit?
Tongue in cheek and just for the conspiracy idiots that sometimes play their
..The Volga Boatman I just love that music and never tire of listening to it. (I hope I have the correct title)
Thank you so much for posting that Youtube clip.... I HATE COLD WEATHER, hence I live in the South-West of England. I felt so sorry for that child who lost their hat!! Thank goodness they did not get run over trying to recover it. To put things in perspective my children who are now in their late twenties have only ever seen snow once in their lives and that was last year!!
I agree with you when you state how your ships would easily deal with the current sea conditions. I served on a frigate that was just over 2500 tons and she would easily have sailed through those types of sea. I have fond memories regarding some pilots that if the need arose would fly their wasp helicopter in hurricane force winds!!
(not all of them would)I guess landing a helicopter on the moving ride of a big dipper might, just might be more difficult, but in Force 12 or 13 hurricane force winds with the ship going up and down like a see-saw and rolling from side to side, with ice on the decks and of course the ship trying to make head-way is not something I would be first in the queue to try. Then once safely down on the deck having to rely on the deck handlers to run out with strops to lash the thing down. That takes HUGE cajones.
RESPECT with a capital 'R' to these brave men in their flying machines
Who really knows why that Russian group of ships decided to pay us a visit?
Tongue in cheek and just for the conspiracy idiots that sometimes play their
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Hi glojo, you should not be sorry about it - it is just a weather, like a rain, fog or something. We really do not recognize it like a disaster. Don't take that to heart, we are used to this weather. It's just a weather.
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Hi Serge,
Your grasp of the English language is amazing..... My hearty congratulations but I was not sorry or sad regarding the weather, as you rightly say it is an act of nature and that is something NO ONE can alter.
I felt sorry for that child who lost their hat in that extremely severe weather. It hurtled off their head and for a moment my heart was in my mouth as that child run onto the road. Loosing a hat in those freezing conditions is going to be extremely uncomfortable and what will mum and dad say when that child comes home without their headgear?
Your grasp of the English language is amazing..... My hearty congratulations but I was not sorry or sad regarding the weather, as you rightly say it is an act of nature and that is something NO ONE can alter.
I felt sorry for that child who lost their hat in that extremely severe weather. It hurtled off their head and for a moment my heart was in my mouth as that child run onto the road. Loosing a hat in those freezing conditions is going to be extremely uncomfortable and what will mum and dad say when that child comes home without their headgear?
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glojo, we just do not divide the weather (wind) and the consequences (loosing hat in this case) - it's the same for us. That's the reason because of which I had write my prev post.
Actually, nature could be more dangerous than this wind and we know a lot about that fact. May be because of that we do not pay attention to the lost hats and several small bruises due to that wind:
Ok, it's a time to feed my own bear, I should give him some conserved milk and vodka.
Actually, nature could be more dangerous than this wind and we know a lot about that fact. May be because of that we do not pay attention to the lost hats and several small bruises due to that wind:
Ok, it's a time to feed my own bear, I should give him some conserved milk and vodka.
Russian warships leave Moray Firth for Atlantic
BBC News - Russian warships leave Moray Firth for Atlantic
BBC News - Russian warships leave Moray Firth for Atlantic
Russian warships and support vessels which had taken shelter in the Moray Firth are heading for the Atlantic, according to the Royal Navy.
HMS York has been tracking aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, a destroyer and two frigates.
Three oil tankers in the task group left the warships to pass through the Pentland Firth on Thursday.
An ocean-going tug, the Nikolay Chiker, was about 27 miles off Stronsay in Orkney on Friday morning.
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) said the vessels - elements of Russia's Baltic Fleet - were moving over the top of Scotland.
Shetland Coastguard said the tankers had moved through the Pentland Firth - the stretch of water between Scotland's north mainland coast and Orkney.
The Nikolay Chiker had been headed north off Orkney before turning north east.
HMS York has been tracking aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, a destroyer and two frigates.
Three oil tankers in the task group left the warships to pass through the Pentland Firth on Thursday.
An ocean-going tug, the Nikolay Chiker, was about 27 miles off Stronsay in Orkney on Friday morning.
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) said the vessels - elements of Russia's Baltic Fleet - were moving over the top of Scotland.
Shetland Coastguard said the tankers had moved through the Pentland Firth - the stretch of water between Scotland's north mainland coast and Orkney.
The Nikolay Chiker had been headed north off Orkney before turning north east.
HMS York completes a week shadowing Russia’s biggest warship around the British Isles
http://www.navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/3121
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When he was practicing aerobatics, NF Fighter Regiment Deputy Commander Col. Pavel Podguzov carried out first deck landing.
If so, Sir, yours must be made from titanium, the size of footballs and gold plated to boot!
The Russian Navy are quite active during this deployment in Morse Code. For the most part they use international callsigns and a list of frequencies assigned and agreed by the International Telegraph Union.
Obviously the near impossible part is linking the callsign to the exact vessel. That aside they do on occasion send weather and sea state reports containing a lat and long.
I noted callsign RAL46 sending the following on 12464 Khz at 1234 GMT today.
RAL46 BT 715 19 21 1614 715 BT FM RAL46
21121 99367 70096 41498 80207 10160 40310 53010 70211 884// 22233 20801 302// 41002 21014 BT AR
From the message the second and third groups contain the lat long. That puts the ship off the southwest of Portugal.
36.7N 09.6W
36.7N 09.6W - Google Maps
Group 6 = 10160 will be the temperature plus 16
I believe that group 11 indicates heading and speed? 22233 222 degrees at 3.3 knots?
Probably an indication that the Kuznetsov Task Group, or elements of, are shortly to enter the Mediterranean and meet up with the Frigate Ladny?
From
Black Sea Fleet Frigate Ladny Visits French Toulon
The Ladny has already visited Malta earlier in the month.
LADNYY 801 - ShipSpotting.com - Ship Photos and Ship Tracker
The following links contain the frequencies and info for those with a receiver.
NSNL 72 - Military stations
Morse Code Networks
Morse Traffic explained
Obviously the near impossible part is linking the callsign to the exact vessel. That aside they do on occasion send weather and sea state reports containing a lat and long.
I noted callsign RAL46 sending the following on 12464 Khz at 1234 GMT today.
RAL46 BT 715 19 21 1614 715 BT FM RAL46
21121 99367 70096 41498 80207 10160 40310 53010 70211 884// 22233 20801 302// 41002 21014 BT AR
From the message the second and third groups contain the lat long. That puts the ship off the southwest of Portugal.
36.7N 09.6W
36.7N 09.6W - Google Maps
Group 6 = 10160 will be the temperature plus 16
I believe that group 11 indicates heading and speed? 22233 222 degrees at 3.3 knots?
Probably an indication that the Kuznetsov Task Group, or elements of, are shortly to enter the Mediterranean and meet up with the Frigate Ladny?
Black Sea Fleet (BSF) frigate Ladny heading for the Mediterranean Sea has called at French Navy's main naval base Toulon before joining Russian Navy carrier group comprising ships of Northern and Baltic fleets. ....
The Russian warship will replenish water and fuel supplies in Toulon and on Dec 17 lay a course for the rendezvous point of Russian Navy carrier group in the western part of the Mediterranean.
The Russian warship will replenish water and fuel supplies in Toulon and on Dec 17 lay a course for the rendezvous point of Russian Navy carrier group in the western part of the Mediterranean.
Black Sea Fleet Frigate Ladny Visits French Toulon
The Ladny has already visited Malta earlier in the month.
LADNYY 801 - ShipSpotting.com - Ship Photos and Ship Tracker
The following links contain the frequencies and info for those with a receiver.
NSNL 72 - Military stations
Morse Code Networks
Morse Traffic explained
Out of interest (boredom?) I googled the Ladnyy. I don't know how much she has been updated over the years, but she is a 30+ year old frigate, still equipped with SSN-14 and SAN-4.
I haven't looked at the vessels that make up the rest of the Task Group, and am not up to date with recent developments in Russian naval forces, how is their ship building programme these days, have there been any follow on post Udaloy, Sovremenny and Slava, which must all be starting to get a bit long in the tooth!
(Obviously I am not expecting to hear anything that isn't open source -in fact, given my usual track record on pprune I'm not expecting any response at all!!)
I haven't looked at the vessels that make up the rest of the Task Group, and am not up to date with recent developments in Russian naval forces, how is their ship building programme these days, have there been any follow on post Udaloy, Sovremenny and Slava, which must all be starting to get a bit long in the tooth!
(Obviously I am not expecting to hear anything that isn't open source -in fact, given my usual track record on pprune I'm not expecting any response at all!!)
Biggus,
Udaloy was followed by Udaloy II. The last Sovremmeny is only about five years old, I think China bought it, with all new SANs. Slava was a bit older, using (I think) the Kresta/Kara hull. I think the programme fell apart when the Soviet Union colapsed.
Hope an answer is a nice surprise! Even if it isn't very helpful.
Udaloy was followed by Udaloy II. The last Sovremmeny is only about five years old, I think China bought it, with all new SANs. Slava was a bit older, using (I think) the Kresta/Kara hull. I think the programme fell apart when the Soviet Union colapsed.
Hope an answer is a nice surprise! Even if it isn't very helpful.
Morse weather report from callsign RK081 with coordinates.
Transmitted on 8345 Khz at 0030 GMT 22 December
RK081 BT 794 20 22 0400 794 BT SML
22001 99369 70069 41798 10305 10160 .027. .4000 70200 81/// 22223 00170 21/// 303// ...... Signal fades out
From the second and third group the lat and long is
36.9N 06.9W (North West of Rota/Cadiz, Spain)
36.9N 06.9W - Google Maps
Transmitted on 8345 Khz at 0030 GMT 22 December
RK081 BT 794 20 22 0400 794 BT SML
22001 99369 70069 41798 10305 10160 .027. .4000 70200 81/// 22223 00170 21/// 303// ...... Signal fades out
From the second and third group the lat and long is
36.9N 06.9W (North West of Rota/Cadiz, Spain)
36.9N 06.9W - Google Maps
Biggus wrote
It should be the following, Biggus?
Admiral Kuznetsov,
Admiral Chabanenko
The Baltic Fleet Frigate Yaroslav Mudry joined the Task Force off Scotland along with the tanker/oiler Lena.
SAR Nikolay Chiker
Fleet oilers Sergei Osipov, Vyazma, Kama
The Baltic Fleet Frigate Neustrashimy is also part of the Task Force
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I haven't looked at the vessels that make up the rest of the Task Group,...
Admiral Kuznetsov,
Admiral Chabanenko
The Baltic Fleet Frigate Yaroslav Mudry joined the Task Force off Scotland along with the tanker/oiler Lena.
SAR Nikolay Chiker
Fleet oilers Sergei Osipov, Vyazma, Kama
The Baltic Fleet Frigate Neustrashimy is also part of the Task Force
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Morse Code message on 12464 Khz at 1214 GMT - 22 December. This places the vessel in the Mediterranean.
RMP DE RK081 QSA IMI QTC K
RKO81 303 20 22 1600 303 BT SML FOR RJD38 BT
22121 99357 70041 41798 12705 10180 40266 5.000 70200 81001 22233 0170. ..501 327// 4///// 88000 80000 22017 AR RK081
From the second and third groups of the message.
35.7N 04.1W
35.7N 04.1W - Google Maps
The callsign that the vessel (RK081) is sending the message to is RMP. This is the Baltic Fleet HQ at Kaliningrad so it narrows down the likely candidates.
Global Frequency Database: Details - Kaliningrad, Russia RMP 4.079 MHz/4079 kHz - Radio Scanner Frequencies
Very hard to tie down the callsign to a specific ship. It could be anyone of the Baltic Fleet vessels in the Task Group? RK081 is possibly the Tanker Lena entering the Mediterranean first to link up with the Black Sea Fleet Frigate Ladny?
Baltic Sea Fleet elements of the Task Force.
Tanker Lena
Frigate Yaroslav Mudry
Frigate Neustrashimy
Russia: BF Frigate Yaroslav Mudry Joins Carrier Group >> Naval Today
RMP DE RK081 QSA IMI QTC K
RKO81 303 20 22 1600 303 BT SML FOR RJD38 BT
22121 99357 70041 41798 12705 10180 40266 5.000 70200 81001 22233 0170. ..501 327// 4///// 88000 80000 22017 AR RK081
From the second and third groups of the message.
35.7N 04.1W
35.7N 04.1W - Google Maps
The callsign that the vessel (RK081) is sending the message to is RMP. This is the Baltic Fleet HQ at Kaliningrad so it narrows down the likely candidates.
Global Frequency Database: Details - Kaliningrad, Russia RMP 4.079 MHz/4079 kHz - Radio Scanner Frequencies
Very hard to tie down the callsign to a specific ship. It could be anyone of the Baltic Fleet vessels in the Task Group? RK081 is possibly the Tanker Lena entering the Mediterranean first to link up with the Black Sea Fleet Frigate Ladny?
Baltic Sea Fleet elements of the Task Force.
Tanker Lena
Frigate Yaroslav Mudry
Frigate Neustrashimy
Russia: BF Frigate Yaroslav Mudry Joins Carrier Group >> Naval Today
Another two vessels enter the Mediterranean
Morse Code message on 12464 Khz at 1254 GMT - 22 December
RIT DE RAL46 QSA IMI QTC K
RAL46 145 17 22 1630 145 BT FM RAL46 RAL65 FOR RJD74 RJH45
22121 99357 70040 41/98 03004 10180 40.62 51020 70200 22233 330// 40801 22012 BT AR RAL46
From the second and third group of the message.
35.7N 04.0W
35.7N 04.0W - Google Maps
Vessel RAL46 is also sending the message for another callsign RAL65. It appears to be travelling in close proximity. Callsign RAL46 and RAL65 could be the carrier Admiral Kuznetsov and escort Admiral Chabanenko?
The callsign RIT is HQ Northern Fleet Severomorsk.
Morse Code message on 12464 Khz at 1254 GMT - 22 December
RIT DE RAL46 QSA IMI QTC K
RAL46 145 17 22 1630 145 BT FM RAL46 RAL65 FOR RJD74 RJH45
22121 99357 70040 41/98 03004 10180 40.62 51020 70200 22233 330// 40801 22012 BT AR RAL46
From the second and third group of the message.
35.7N 04.0W
35.7N 04.0W - Google Maps
Vessel RAL46 is also sending the message for another callsign RAL65. It appears to be travelling in close proximity. Callsign RAL46 and RAL65 could be the carrier Admiral Kuznetsov and escort Admiral Chabanenko?
The callsign RIT is HQ Northern Fleet Severomorsk.
The Frigate Ladny is currently visiting Ceuta.
Frigate Ladny Called at Spanish Port Ceuta
According to the the seawaves website the Ladny will visit Valletta, Malta on the 27th December. The RFS Sergei Osipov will visit Valletta, Malta on the 26th December.
Warship & Navy Port Visits | SeaWaves Books
Hard to say from the monitored Morse communications whether the Kuznetsov is actually in the Mediterranean. Obviously some elements have made the transit. Callsign RKO81 made a further transmission yesterday with a position off the coast of Morocco.
A Russian TV Channel reported the following on the 22nd December.
The Russian squadron led by heavy aircraft carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" is close to Gibraltar.
Black Sea Fleet (BSF) frigate Ladny pays formal visit to Spanish port of Ceuta, told BSF Information Support Department to Central Navy Portal.
Carrying out long-range cruise in the Mediterranean Sea, BSF frigate Ladny pays the last formal call at Spanish port of Ceuta en route to rendezvous point with Russian Navy's task force. Earlier on, Ladny called at ports of Malta and France. Basically, the visit's purpose is replenishment of fuel and water supplies as well as crew rest. During the visit, the cruise command will visit city and military authorities of Ceuta.
Visit of frigate Ladny to the Spanish port will finish on Dec 23. As is expected, tomorrow the ship would join the task force of Northern and Baltic fleets led by aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov.
Carrying out long-range cruise in the Mediterranean Sea, BSF frigate Ladny pays the last formal call at Spanish port of Ceuta en route to rendezvous point with Russian Navy's task force. Earlier on, Ladny called at ports of Malta and France. Basically, the visit's purpose is replenishment of fuel and water supplies as well as crew rest. During the visit, the cruise command will visit city and military authorities of Ceuta.
Visit of frigate Ladny to the Spanish port will finish on Dec 23. As is expected, tomorrow the ship would join the task force of Northern and Baltic fleets led by aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov.
According to the the seawaves website the Ladny will visit Valletta, Malta on the 27th December. The RFS Sergei Osipov will visit Valletta, Malta on the 26th December.
Warship & Navy Port Visits | SeaWaves Books
Hard to say from the monitored Morse communications whether the Kuznetsov is actually in the Mediterranean. Obviously some elements have made the transit. Callsign RKO81 made a further transmission yesterday with a position off the coast of Morocco.
A Russian TV Channel reported the following on the 22nd December.
The Russian squadron led by heavy aircraft carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" is close to Gibraltar.