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Another Red Arrows mishap? (merged)

Old 8th Nov 2011, 21:29
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My thoughts & prayers are with family & friends at this very sad time. I always wear my poppy with pride, even more so on this very sad occasion.

RIP young aviator.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 21:29
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So which part of '...family have requested a period of grace...' did the D***y M**l find difficult to comprehend?


RiP, Sir.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 21:38
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Landed late this afternoon to hear the tragic news.

RIP Buddy, will never forget your natural 'warmth' and that almost constant and very infectious smile.

To the Boys & Girls at Scampton: - The show must go on!

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Old 8th Nov 2011, 21:41
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This is dreadful news and from the picture I just can't fathom how it happened.

With all due respect, I take it that no-one's considering anything but an accident?
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 21:46
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Sad Loss

Terrible news, thoughts and prayers to family and friends, RIP.
The D***y M**l didnt even have the decency to respect the families wishes. Dont suppose they will apologise, maybe Stations and Messes should reviewing purchasing the paper.

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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:03
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RIP

Given the photos and details the Mail has I am wondering whether the details were released direct to them to publish.

Mail not worth wrapping Fish and Chips in.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:07
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Daily Mail

if you want to make your feelings known:

Press Complaints Commission >> Making a Complaint >> How to make a complaint

i know what im off to do now....

RIP.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:17
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Awful news. May the pilot Rest In Peace.

Daily Mail? Astonishing. Disgraceful.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:20
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The D***y M**l didnt even have the decency to respect the families wishes. Dont suppose they will apologise, maybe Stations and Messes should reviewing purchasing the paper.
How do you know they have not respected the family's wishes?

The report indicates that the pilot has been named officially. The Mail would not publish the name (and photo) without being absolutely sure that they could not be sued for falsehood.

If you want to blame somebody, blame whoever it was in the RAF (or wherever) who gave them the name.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:23
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"Given the photos and details the Mail has I am wondering whether the details were released direct to them to publish."

Steve Hill is a photographer in Lincoln so would probably have been on the spot and sold the photos to the DM.


Very disappointed if the DM published details before they were asked to but not unexpected of the media nowadays.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:39
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It sounds as if it was an unofficial source as I have just been watching the BBC News where the gentleman's name has not been disclosed and I'm sure we would have been told.
I've just got politely cross with a poster in the Spectators Forum who claims to be a great fan of the Red Arrows but who has published the link to his name.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:44
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With deepest condolences to the family and friends of an exemplary pilot and officer. Heartfelt sympathies to the wider RAFAT Family. The wings of another fine aviator will remain forever folded. RIP.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:47
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Just my opinion but the DM having received permission seems a bit iffy to me. They misquoted Group Captain Simon Blake, missing out the part about the grace period.

Why would they do that if they had permission from the family?
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 22:49
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First of all my sincere condolences to the family and colleagues of the deceased. The Reds must be totally shellshocked after this year's tragic events.

Secondly, and I am not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but here goes. I have absolutely no wish to speculate on the cause of this accident but I have a general question. When I flew in aircraft fitted with ejector seats (the Jet Provost) these were of the old type - quite literally bang seats, and a zero - zero ejection would in all normal circumstance be unsurvivable. Are current aircraft (FJs that is) all fitted with rocket seats which provide a good chance of survival to anyone ejecting from a stationary aircraft on the ground? This may seem a silly question to current aircrew, but I have been out of the game for 35 years now and I genuinely dont know.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:02
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That's a 'bedroom website' with a poor translation of the DM article, not an official source.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:02
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With all the safety procedures designed to prevent this sort of thing happening.... one really wonders how it is possible. Particularly considering that it is a zero/zero seat. Perhaps he wasn't strapped in yet?

Very sad....
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:08
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That's a 'bedroom website' with a poor translation of the DM article, not an official source.
It's his own forum . . . check out 'Contact Us'


Sincere condolences to family, friends and all of you.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:10
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Am I seeing things or have the DM now removed the bits they were not supposed to publish ? I was sure I saw a photo and name in the DM (and not the Tel, Sun or the BBC. Happy to be corrected if I am wrong).

Red Arrows pilot rushed to hospital with life-threatening injuries after 'ejector seat accident' | Mail Online
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:13
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500N. You are not wrong. Maybe a DM editor is getting his/her wrist slapped as we write. Not holding my breath, but a day (or an hour) late and a dollar short.
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 23:14
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Bit late now though isn't it. Well done Daily Fail.
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