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BEAGLE HUSKY - XW635 - Ex-5 AEF -Where is she now

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Old 6th Nov 2016, 20:54
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Damn it, I was in the ATC in the 70's, never got near that Beagle. It sure looks like a nice aeroplane! It seems I missed out twice as I never got near the AEF airline flights either.

I did manage to get a little gliding in at Kenley in Kirby cadet mk IIIs and Sedbergs. Plus a couple of Chipmunk flights at RAF Abingdon and RAF Benson. Oh well..
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Originally Posted by Dan Winterland

The Beagle Husky is quite a good aeroplane - it's a effectively a Lycoming powered Auster. The 180HP gives it a good take off performance, but then it was power against drag and not worth thinking about cruising above 90knts. And the split flaps make it a real dragmaster and good for short strip landings.

I've also flown the Aviat Husky (which is a bit like a Cub on steroids) and the two are very similar. The yank machine has a 180hp Lycoming as well, but with a CS prop. It's got truly enormous flaps and even better short field performance than the Beagle Husky. But the British aircraft is nicer to handle.

Both would make an excellent glider tugs!
It was based loosely on the J/1 airframe and during the marketing of it, suggestions of a crop spraying variant were put forward. It was my first aircraft trip as an Air Cadet...I seem to vaguely remember that the BBMF sailed past at a lower altitude inbound to a Duxford display.
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Originally Posted by bobward

Back to the start of the thread. I was told that 5 AEF got the Husky after (Sir) Billy Butlin either won it in a raffle, or bought it at a charity auction. Hughie Green then persuaded him to donate it to the ATC. When she was in her original blue scheme, she had 'Spirit of Butlins' in script each side of the nose.
According to a book I bought recently on the tale of woe that was Beagle, the story is that it was originally bought by the National Society for the Mentally Handicapped, raffled and Billy Butlin won it. He re-auctioned it on behalf of that charity and it is believed that the joint winners were Fred Pontin and Hughie Green, the latter donating it to the ATC.
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Jerry Ball - quite a character iirc.

How about a pic. Can't remember who took it, but that's me in the grey flying suit.
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 16:32
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Where is Husky XW635

Can anyone help with the current, precise location of XW635. I flew in her as a staff cadet at 5AEF in the very early 70s. I'm currently making a short documentary about the staff cadets of that time and would dearly love to get some shots of her airworthy or otherwise.
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Originally Posted by ATC71
Can anyone help with the current, precise location of XW635. I flew in her as a staff cadet at 5AEF in the very early 70s. I'm currently making a short documentary about the staff cadets of that time and would dearly love to get some shots of her airworthy or otherwise.
I believe it is now wearing G-AWSW and is active and based at Spanhoe.
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I believe it is now wearing G-AWSW and is active and based at Spanhoe.

Many thanks - a great help
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First powered aircraft I ever flew in (no speedboats for it being at Cambridge). i was at the place i actually first flew in a glider, day before yesterday, so a bit of a coincidence this popping up.
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Old 21st Feb 2023, 13:36
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My 2nd flight with 5 AEF was in XW635- nice aircraft :-)

my logbook from the 70's with my AEF flights, also an Argosy pax trip which made me airsick!
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Ah yes, and the apres flying' at the Ancient Shepherds in Fen Ditton. The tail wheel on the Husky was tensioned' by a rubber bungee which frequently "pinged". Replacement thereof improved Marshalls profits.

AD, ex 5 AEF'
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. The tail wheel on the Husky was tensioned' by a rubber bungee which frequently "pinged". Replacement thereof improved Marshalls profits.

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Ah yes the Bungees - how to keep cadets from getting bored whilst waiting for the weather to improve - ''go out and search the airfield for a missing bungee'' - I remember it well .
Did some chippie rides at Cambridge but preferred to go to Newton - a much nicer airfield to fly from
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What a great thread. Never had any of these experiences being a working class Glasgow lad who some how ended up as a Nimrod Nav/Capt before moving on to the RNZAF and in my 18th year here. But hearing these stories, I wonder if these will ever be repeated with modern generations or have we become too involved with the cost and not the value.
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Originally Posted by old-timer
My 2nd flight with 5 AEF was in XW635- nice aircraft :-)

my logbook from the 70's with my AEF flights, also an Argosy pax trip which made me airsick!
Know the feeling. My first ever flight was in an Argosy in 1962 doing circuits at Benson and I only lasted about 1 and a half hours before they took pity on me and offloaded me then carried on flying!
My only contact with the Husky was in '71 when I was doing flying training at Marshalls of Cambridge; never got to fly in it although I flew in AEF Chipmunks and a solitary Piston Provost (my second ever flight after the Argosy) which rather spoilt me for Chipmunks.
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Ah yes! THE RAF Husky. I flew her quite a lot from 1976-80 whilst recruiting from an office in Bedford. The 5 AEF flying club kept me sane (and I could take my staff flying). The way I heard the history was that it was one of the last of its iline and did not have much of a market. So it finished up brand-new in the ballroom of the Cafe Royal in London at a charity auction. Hughie Green was (one of?) the winners, but had no use for it. So in a fanfare of publicity he gave it to the ATC. The RAF now had a totally non-military aircraft that was not Boscombe approved, so did not much want it either! However after all the press reports they could not just reject it. After a bit of lateral thinking they gave it to Marshalls to look after and produce as required for 5 AEF. They did this very well (complete with Chipmunk wheels). On the AEF we aimed to give each cadet a Chipmunk ride. However when things got a bit busy we fired up the Husky and cleared the list three cadets at a time. As a sop to normality we used a typewritten checklist, rubber stamped by Handling Squadron (who had never seen the aircraft).. Happy days. Comments/corrections welcome (it was a while ago). Mike T.
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Old 24th Feb 2023, 13:44
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Originally Posted by Four Turbo
Ah yes! THE RAF Husky. I flew her quite a lot from 1976-80 whilst recruiting from an office in Bedford. The 5 AEF flying club kept me sane (and I could take my staff flying). The way I heard the history was that it was one of the last of its iline and did not have much of a market. So it finished up brand-new in the ballroom of the Cafe Royal in London at a charity auction. Hughie Green was (one of?) the winners, but had no use for it. So in a fanfare of publicity he gave it to the ATC.
I believe the Husky was originally destined for WJAC (Womens Junior Air Corps) and GVC (Girls Venture Corps Air Wing) cadets sponsored by Billy Butlin (who I think-but I'm not sure-was joint winner with Hughie Green) but was 'absorbed' by Marshalls and added to the 5 AEF fleet to be operated by all female and male cadets, female ATC cadets only being authorised from the early '80s.
I saw it operate from Marshalls while I was doing a 6 week PPL course there in 1971 although of course I was mon-fri and the AEF normally operated weekends but when I took cadets to Marshalls for AEF in 1987 one day during ATC summer camp at Wittering, I don't recall it flying on that occasion so maybe it had been 'retired'.

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Old 24th Feb 2023, 19:05
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There was a BIG p*ss up at Cranwell for the 25th anniversary of the AEF's 1977. My Dad was in attendance, having been a founder member of No 1 AEF at Biggin Hill in 1952. A Poster and other handouts were produced for the event and handed out to the attendees. I have my Dad's somewhere, but I know not where, but I do remember that said Beagle Husky was included in the list of aircraft with 5 AEF and that Hughie Green was mentioned as the benefactor.

Time to search the loft

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