Birth Certificates - RAF Brats born overseas
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Dagama, Tiger_Mate... Your kids don't need to worry about German conscription.
GreenKnight - Thank you for the reassurance. Though he had more than a soft spot for the 'vaterland' in his teens, he is now very British, which is nice!
GreenKnight - Thank you for the reassurance. Though he had more than a soft spot for the 'vaterland' in his teens, he is now very British, which is nice!
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I thought the germans had just given up on it anyway?
Apparently it has completely screwed up there university intakes this year as they have 2 lots looking for places instead of the usual one.
Apparently it has completely screwed up there university intakes this year as they have 2 lots looking for places instead of the usual one.
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My grandson was born at the U.S. Air Force hospital at Lakenheath, but transferred after two days to Norwich civilian hospital because of 'complications' (both my daughter and son-in-law were serving in the U.S.A.F. at Lakenheath) and has a U.S. Birth Certificate and Passport. However, when he is 18 (he's currently 8), he can choose whether he wants U.S. or British citizenship, apparently.
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Though tracking down the relevant records may be tiresome, I don't think Mrs O has anything to worry about. My brats were born in Rinteln and Wegberg, my Dad in Singapore, my mother in Malta and my aunts and uncles in China and India in the days when we had an empire. None had any problems with certification.
I myself was nearly born in Malaya, in which case I would now be either dead or speaking Japanese.
I myself was nearly born in Malaya, in which case I would now be either dead or speaking Japanese.
My daughter also has the British Consolate Hannover Certificate and has often wondered about duel nationality;
Sounds like she might have a fight on her hands!
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Sounds like she might have a fight on her hands!
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I was born in Steamer Point hospital, Aden. Totally throws the questioner when I say it is now in the Republic of Yemen. That is when they have worked out where Yemen is.
A couple of years ago the Government did a study to see where people were born so that they could use this data to "target" funding for those who were born overseas. Amongst the data,
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So appears that we are classed as Immigrants.....
A couple of years ago the Government did a study to see where people were born so that they could use this data to "target" funding for those who were born overseas. Amongst the data,
Wiltshire, Colchester, North Yorkshire and Aldershot - all centres of army life - have a combined Germany-born population of 12,000 people.
7.5% of people living in Britain were born abroad.
You can find out where they come from and many more key facts throughout this database - the most detailed set of immigration figures ever ssembled.
You can find out where they come from and many more key facts throughout this database - the most detailed set of immigration figures ever ssembled.
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So appears that we are classed as Immigrants.....
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Born in Aug 74 at RAF Akrotiri, bailed out at about a week old apparently due to the Turkish neighbours getting a bit feisty.... I wonder if the driver of the VC10 is on here !?!?! Now that would be weird....
My wife was born in March 1950 in the British Military Hospital in Ceylon (family legend has it they switched off the lights and locked the doors behind them as she left) and has only a Ceylon birth cert.; that was no handicap when it came to getting a full UK passport in 1979. Previous excursions to Europe had been on the old pink card system.
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One of our Torquelet sprogs was born in Hong Kong, after the handover so a Chinese territory. She wasn't allowed local citizenship and has a British passport.
I was born in Egypt in 1949 and my birth certificate shows the place of birth as the MF Wing Abyad Hospital with the birth registered at HQ No 205 Gp MEAF by a staff officer in the HQ - never had any problems until after I had retired and then visited Plymouth dockyard for a work meeting where I was treated as an alien!
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I was born in Nottingham, but appears I can have any nationality of my choosing. Birth certificates are available in Hindi, Swahili, Sanscrit and, on special at present, Egyptian cartouche.
Got to be an RAF brat 16 years later.
Got to be an RAF brat 16 years later.
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The saga continues. Email this morning from the GRO, thanking us for the scanned copy of the original. Allegedly they have now found Mrs O's details and will dispatch replacement post haste. Allegedly the details were ommited from the indexes, but it has subsequently been added.
Two further things of note, the first was that the register number they listed was different from the one on the certificate (which was actually written in words not numbers, which makes it harder to believe a mistake) and the second was that their email could not even get my wifes surname right!
So if register and entry number are that important, you would think the on-line form would ask for them (if known)....
So currently we have copies coming from the Maltese public records and the UK GRO, let see if they actually match the original.
Tune in next week for the next thrilling installment.
Two further things of note, the first was that the register number they listed was different from the one on the certificate (which was actually written in words not numbers, which makes it harder to believe a mistake) and the second was that their email could not even get my wifes surname right!
So if register and entry number are that important, you would think the on-line form would ask for them (if known)....
So currently we have copies coming from the Maltese public records and the UK GRO, let see if they actually match the original.
Tune in next week for the next thrilling installment.
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My youngest son was born in Singapore and my wife was born in Habbaniya, Iraq. In addition to the local birth certificates they also have British birth certificates. My mother-in-law is buried in the british military cemetery at Habbaniya, which I believe has been desecrated.
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I was born at the David Bruce Military Hospital at Mtarfa in Malta in 1959, my father was in the RAF and my mother is Maltese. I have a British birth certficate signed by a Mr (Flt Lt) Harold Edward Cowen who was the register of births RAF Malta, so I suspect that the certificate you are looking for must be a British one, good luck with your search.
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I was born in South Africa and was registered in Cape Town, with my parents getting a copy of the South African Birth Certificate. Dad was in the Royal Navy at the time, serving at Simonstown Naval Base. I was also registered at the British Consular Office in Cape Town and entered into my mother's passport as a British Citizen. Twenty years later in 1967 I applied for a British Passport but was told that there was no record of my birth in the British Consular Records and I could not have a British passport as I was a South African citizen. [I was presumably also an illegal immigrant, having entered UK in 1950 on a false passport 
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I eventually claimed British Citizenship By Descent by proving from my documents that I was the legitimate child of parents who were British by birth and that my father was the legitimate child of a father who was a British citizen by birth. The citizenship law has, since then, become even stricter.
Our youngest was born in Brunei in December 1982 and under the new citizenship law that came into force at midnight on 31st, she would not have acquired British citizenship either by birth or by descent. She made it by just two weeks! As my wife is Malaysian and I am not British by birth, this could have repercussions on our children, should they move abroad to work and have children born abroad. So far all our grandchildren have been born in UK.
] I eventually claimed British Citizenship By Descent by proving from my documents that I was the legitimate child of parents who were British by birth and that my father was the legitimate child of a father who was a British citizen by birth. The citizenship law has, since then, become even stricter.
Our youngest was born in Brunei in December 1982 and under the new citizenship law that came into force at midnight on 31st, she would not have acquired British citizenship either by birth or by descent. She made it by just two weeks! As my wife is Malaysian and I am not British by birth, this could have repercussions on our children, should they move abroad to work and have children born abroad. So far all our grandchildren have been born in UK.
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And the winner is......
First passed the post was the Maltese Public Records Office! From ordering to delivery it took seven days, Mrs Ogre is now in possession of two full Maltese birth certificates. Funnily enough they contain more information than the UK full one does, such as Grandfathers name(s)
We are still waiting for the UK version to turn up........
We are still waiting for the UK version to turn up........
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
This has been going on forever.
GF PN was Irish and serving in the Indian Army. PN's mum was born in Calcutta pre-Irish independence. The bureaucrats tried to make out she had Indian nationality - nothing changes.
GF PN was Irish and serving in the Indian Army. PN's mum was born in Calcutta pre-Irish independence. The bureaucrats tried to make out she had Indian nationality - nothing changes.