Farewell paper maps and charts
That's assuming the other geniuses in the command structure don't enforce the 'it's not cleared on the release to service so you can't use it/have it on in the air' as they did with the Squirrel and hand held devices at DHFS.
That's assuming the other geniuses in the command structure don't enforce the 'it's not cleared on the release to service so you can't use it/have it on in the air' as they did with the Squirrel and hand held devices at DHFS.
That regulation exists for a reason. If it had been enforced, Chinook ZD576 would not have been flying on 2/6/94. It isn't a big task to clear such a device, but you have to do it in each aircraft type, which will take time.
I'm sorry - you are quite correct, and I didn't word that very well. I really meant it seems too difficult to get these trials sorted at Shawbury when other locations, such as MW, seem to be able to get these things working in next to no time.
Hi, speaking as someone trying to find a colour 7" monitor bright enough to work in a FJ cockpit in full sun at 25000' (with consequential explosive depressurisation issues) for potential SA use, would any of these devices fit the mapping bill anyway? For aircrew wearing dark helmet screens too. There doesn't seem to be much available. Half mil LFCs are complex enough as it is (tichy avoid area circles hidden under boundary lines, etc.)
Bugger all use for starting a piano fire though! Whereas a ripped up En-Route Supp and the night end of a time-expired day/night flare would cook up an old Joanna a treat!
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Oh, I don't know.
An exploding iPad could be rather spectacular (iPod below)
Apple offers exploding iPod touch refund in return for silence
Still want a couple on the flight deck chaps? I'll stay with the paper version thanks, at least it seldom acts as the source of the fire. I'd be happy to have the damn things banned on any flight I was on, whether as crew or passenger.
Apple sued over ‘exploding’ iPod - Telegraph
An exploding iPad could be rather spectacular (iPod below)
Apple offers exploding iPod touch refund in return for silence
Still want a couple on the flight deck chaps? I'll stay with the paper version thanks, at least it seldom acts as the source of the fire. I'd be happy to have the damn things banned on any flight I was on, whether as crew or passenger.
Apple sued over ‘exploding’ iPod - Telegraph
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sorry, that affected Ipod, not Ipad. Besides, I can think of plenty of lithium powered devices we already carry on the jet, not limited to: personal laptops, Ipods, work required laptops, lithium containing freight, oh and of course, noggs.
It seems to me, the only people against an FAA certified product that could auto update in range of a wireless hub (no hand ammendments) are the senile generation, and a bunch of scuffers trying to justify their own jobs. Besides the fact that with an internet connection via 3g, we could self file, and, god forbid, actually get notams and met within 24 hours of dispach. As opposed to what we get at the moment.
iPad receives FAA certification as an electronic flight bag | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog
It seems to me, the only people against an FAA certified product that could auto update in range of a wireless hub (no hand ammendments) are the senile generation, and a bunch of scuffers trying to justify their own jobs. Besides the fact that with an internet connection via 3g, we could self file, and, god forbid, actually get notams and met within 24 hours of dispach. As opposed to what we get at the moment.
iPad receives FAA certification as an electronic flight bag | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog
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I already pointed out it was a Pod not a Pad.
I'd opine it's only a matter of time.
Oh, no need to refer to those who'd rather not have the device as senile, is there?
I'd opine it's only a matter of time.
Oh, no need to refer to those who'd rather not have the device as senile, is there?
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Anything that relies on Sat Nav or Radio Transmissions can be spoofed.
It is not easy to move a City or Airfield to another location without somebody noticing and talking about it.
Ergo -the Paper map and the Mk 1 Eyeball still have a part to play in 21st Century Warfare.
It is not easy to move a City or Airfield to another location without somebody noticing and talking about it.
Ergo -the Paper map and the Mk 1 Eyeball still have a part to play in 21st Century Warfare.
While I can see the virtues of an iPad (despite being senile!), where would all the maps and charts be found that currently adorn the walls of the Nation's squadrons, Ops rooms, ATC enclaves - and all the personal aircrew folders..?
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It may surprise many of you to know AIDU are actually all over this and have an app ready to go that they will demo to you on an iPod touch with pleasure. Unfortunately the res of us in the room that weren't a very enthusiastic AIDU Wg Cdr could see that this will be ruined by piss poor procurement of some cheap iCrap iPad wannabe that some ex-AOC has the import licence for, and the security d!c£heads will see to it that even that is reduced to a door wedge. I'm sorry, I just have no confidence in our force to do anything properly any more...
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Not too mention that the iPad works on heat source from the finger to select/move/resize documents.... you gonna remove a flying glove each time you wanna find something?
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And here was me thinking they were about to drag out a load of Surplus NAVWASS's now they have flogged the life remaining Jags wings to Oman and retrofit them to the Tiffie.
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I, along with scores of others, used GPS in mil ac as soon as it became clear the MOD and the 'old school' were not going to play. I also used an ipad in flight for mapping, GPS and flight pubs over a year ago. The iphone with memory map was invaluable on NVG Cat A(F) instructional sorties.
As long as the relatively simple trials process is undertaken, the use of an ipad in flight is easy to clear - it already is in the Puma.
As long as the relatively simple trials process is undertaken, the use of an ipad in flight is easy to clear - it already is in the Puma.