Farewell paper maps and charts
 

Does this finally mean that the bulging nav bag is about to be a thing of the past..?
Or am I being precipitate by a decade or two..?:E

Well, it does for United!

RAF options have/are already being looked at but the dinosaurs have slowed it already.

Not to mention the fact that the RAF also binned the Jeppesen contract for TAPs and i'm pretty sure that NavTech don't do an iPad app yet!

This is clearly the way forward, at least for those cockpits/flight decks with space available!

Here's hoping...

There were USMC F18 units at Kandahar using iPads for all sorts of useful airborne info. I wonder when we'll start...

Buy off the shelf - behave!!!! Surely we'll need a bespoke device capable of sustaining 30g whilst 10000ft underwater with a security system that requires three separate dongles and five passwords. It will be at least five times the size of an iPad and use it's own OS making it incompatible with the rest of NATO. And it must be designed and produced by BAE Systems. Although in fairness, and to balance the discussion, the requirement will be changed by the MOD on a monthly basis with the budget being reduced accordingly. The project manager will also be changed by the MOD every 6 months to ensure a 'fresh approach'.

I can hear industry rubbing their hands together in anticipation!

... and most of them will be found left behind on trains anyway :E

In a more benign environment, BA are trialling iPads for cabin crew. Uses include passenger manifests and access to numerous manuals.

British Airways Revolutionises Customer Service Using iPads « British Airways Press Office

They are also much easier to read than a QRH in smoke.

Wrathmonk Not in these days of Fixed Prices contracts they won't.

RAF via MoD says "We want what the Yanks have got"

British industry gets hold of the relelvant specs and cracks on. After a while is struggling mightly to meet the specs. MoD gets shirty; Yanks find it highly amusing, offering to take over the contract.

The guys at the coal face, determined to deliver what was asked for do a little digging and find out that the US version never met the specs and nobody thought to tell the Brits about all the waivers. :ugh::ugh:

And we'd have to carry paper copies 'just in case' of an iPad failure.

And how do you fit one under the TAP clip on the control column for the approach? Or will LM design an iPad clip & charge £15k for it (similar to the TAP clip!)

Not sure about the comment "They will turn them off for take-off and landing"

I'd heard that the US AH drivers were already using them. Whereas our guys have something like 54 maps stored around the 2 cockpits! It is a no brainer in my opinion, just ruggadize it and good to go!:ok:

You make it sound so simple! This is the MOD ......

I think the trouble is, it just sounds too gucci! Some senior type will get all tight about it looking like we're being frivolous by bringing our pubs into the 21st century and can the whole idea.

On a certain 4-jet widebody fleet, they recently worked out that by eliminating the cost-to-carry of all the docs, you could buy 3 iPads per jet in around 4 months - a total no brainer but still we rest in the dark ages.

The only issue might be the additional time spent in the hold finishing off that last level of Angry Birds :ok:

Which in turn will negate the fuel savings of binning all that paper! :O

And what are the EMI implications of an I-Pad in a military aircraft. Have they been trialled? And before everyone goes mad, listen to a mobile phone on your computer speakers.

While a passenger aircraft "glass cockpit" may be EMI resistant, what are the implications on a combat aircraft weapons system etc. Look at the security rules for computers and software, and an I-Pad etc are simply not a player........

Farewell paper maps and charts
 

Ever tried using them in "anger"? I think that they have limitations in the airline world, never mind the military FJ world!:=:=

Farewell paper maps and charts
 

High tech is fantastic; currently operating with Jep on ipad as back up for the even more high tech "Plane View" flight deck with Jep plates. However we still fly with backup, backup paper charts.........just in case the wiggly amps go wrong.

Dump navtec, go back to jeppensen, (Why or why did we every leave them?) give every multi's jet five ipads, with protective cases and glue on velcro to the old tap holders so they can be stuck in place.

Deal with EMI issues by putting them in flight safe mode.

Result, money saved within six months from not having to print everything out all the bloody time.

Simples.

Laptops and iPads in the cockpit? That's Electronic Flight Bag, Class One (EFB1) and so 1990s. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, we civilian types are on to EFB3 fully integrated into the Flight Management System.

I saw a Lynx chap from our very own AAC trialling an iPad with docs on it recently.... who knows it may happen!?