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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 09:28
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Here's one to boil your blood before lunch!

Health and safety defeats Marines who tackled Somali pirates - Telegraph

I'm sure some of you have had apoplexy over this already, but just in case some of you missed it, read on at you own risk!!!

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That explains why the act was one of the weakest parts of the show and must have been an embarrassment to its participants.
Surely Elfin Safety does not apply to the armed forces?
Or are its empire builders hoping to expand into Afghanistan?
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They should have refused to perform at the show.
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Perhaps they can revert to an alternative performance. Abu Ghraib interrogation techniques...
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Thought big DC was trying to reduce h&s nonsense - perhaps someone should show this to him and to Liam Fox

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The 2010 Tattoo included a section where they simulated a patrol in a middle-eastern settings and a squad of armed soldiers approached an arabic-dressed family as they do daily checked them for weapons then spoke with them.

At the dress rehearsal before the public showings this was done properly (or close to properly) and I remember thinking that it was probably a bit full-on and not very PC for the general public. Lo, when I saw it again during the paid performances the entire approach was far more fluffy.

Winning hearts and minds these days needs to be done as much with our own public as it does with those in the operational areas and public displays need to be family friendly. It is a fact.

The H&S vs fast-roping is a damned shame too but the armed forces are no longer exempt from the Health and Safety at Work Act and as this was done as part of a public display rather than for operational reasons it is understandable.

I'm happy to make sure our guys aren't unnecessarily jeopardised for a war musical so they can go and do their jobs, capture Somali pirates and protect the shipping lanes.
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Health and Safety is why we have had several high profile cases in Scotland where our professional services stood by while people were dying - waiting for voluntary rescue organisations who presumably do not have the same ludicrous restrictions.

The act at this year's Tattoo was so emasculated that it would have been better to leave it out. The end result was merely to expose our troops to ridicule and give comfort to any potential pirates - which is surely not what a Tattoo is all about?

Fluffy doesn't cut it in a military display.
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Oh come on, relax a little bit. I read the article and had a good chuckle at it and thought the irony was hilarious. I do agree it's a farce, but it's still amusing in the grand scheme of things.
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The H&S vs fast-roping is a damned shame too but the armed forces are no longer exempt from the Health and Safety at Work Act
It's even affecting the French Légion as a friend of mine told me.
They would get big b@ll@cks for not wearing ear plugs/muffs during their shooting practices.


Maybe something to do with them being able to ear orders afterward
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The 2010 Tattoo included a section where they simulated a patrol in a middle-eastern settings and a squad of armed soldiers approached an arabic-dressed family as they do daily checked them for weapons then spoke with them.

At the dress rehearsal before the public showings this was done properly (or close to properly) and I remember thinking that it was probably a bit full-on and not very PC for the general public. Lo, when I saw it again during the paid performances the entire approach was far more fluffy.

Winning hearts and minds these days needs to be done as much with our own public as it does with those in the operational areas and public displays need to be family friendly. It is a fact.

The H&S vs fast-roping is a damned shame too but the armed forces are no longer exempt from the Health and Safety at Work Act and as this was done as part of a public display rather than for operational reasons it is understandable.

I'm happy to make sure our guys aren't unnecessarily jeopardised for a war musical so they can go and do their jobs, capture Somali pirates and protect the shipping lanes.
Incubus,

There is far too much of a twist in your explanation, I don't think damaging the reputation of H.M. Forces generally and the Marines in particular, is explained away by saying all this nonsense ensures they don't come a cropper at the Tattoo in the meantime, so that they stand a better chance of really risking their necks doing it for real later on.

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All this could easily have been avoided if they had just changed the scenario. From pirates to 'straying into Iranian waters' then there would have been no need for shooting, and surrendering would have been factual
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Ah yes, but who'd pick up the tab for a load of new suits from M & S?
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Old 23rd Aug 2011, 17:30
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And who would have played the part of the lady sailor?
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And who would have played the part of the lady sailor?
Sorry, thought for a moment you said lardy sailor.
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Sorry, thought for a moment you said lardy sailor.
She was no Twiggy, that's for certain
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It would be hilarious if it wasn't true
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Off the original topic, but enough to get me annoyed!

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Pity. I thought that with the practice they get the local nippers would be a shoe-in for the GB pistol team.
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And the 100m sprint. Legging it after a gunshot since before they could walk, I shouldn't wonder.
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"Off the original topic, but enough to get me annoyed!

"Children banned from shooting events in 2012 ticket giveaway"


Meanwhile, the same children play World of Warcraft and Call of Duty all day on the computers which is non stop killing and shooting !!!
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