P51 and Skyraider Collision at Legends 10 Jul 11
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P51 and Skyraider Collision at Legends 10 Jul 11
'A P51 and Skyraider are understood to have had a collison at Flying Legends at Duxford today after the final Balbo on the break.'
P51 pilot landed safely after a parachute landing and was seen in the bar with a pint. Skyraider landed safely with a decent bit of wing missing.
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P51 pilot landed safely after a parachute landing and was seen in the bar with a pint. Skyraider landed safely with a decent bit of wing missing.
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Commentators reported P-51 pilot safe within 15 minutes of the incident, good to see the on site staff moved quickly and were able to reassure the public. Great flying by the Skyraider pilot in getting a quite badly damaged a/c back on the ground quickly.
Very glad all involved were unscathed
Very glad all involved were unscathed
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Dramatic shots of the final moments of the P-51 and the damage to the Skyraider here......... Very Very lucky
Mustang lost at Duxford / Skyraider damaged. No serious injuries (current info) - Page 3 - Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums
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What damage was done to the Mustang to render it unflyable? All the big bits seem still attached in the photo.
I think you will find your answer aft of the air scoop aft of the wing! Quite a dink out of it.
Guessing either it's back was broken or control lines severed...??
Amazing bail out from a P-51 at such low level
Ironic it's marked as Col Landers a/c when he was CO of the wartime Duxford based 78th FG.
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Looks like it took a hit behind the rad, so you probably have a weakend back end, possibly elevator and rudder control issues as the cables run down the fuselage and even cooler and tail wheel issues..... and that's just guessing sitting here........ looking at the damage to the other it was quite bad, in the fullness of time it will come out.......... Main thing is everyone walked away from it, that is the one important thing, metal can be replaced.
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Better hanging from a chute thinking about it.
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I was on the tank bank, not believing what I was seeing.
When the Mustang dipped and headed from the ground, I was sure it, and the pilot, was 5 seconds from a fireball. To see a dot separate from the fighter, and a chute blossom almost instantly was a truly fantastic sight
When the Mustang dipped and headed from the ground, I was sure it, and the pilot, was 5 seconds from a fireball. To see a dot separate from the fighter, and a chute blossom almost instantly was a truly fantastic sight
Better hanging from a chute thinking about it.
Bail out question
Can anyone explain the sequence for getting out of a P51?
Is there a canopy jettison lever?
How do you separate yourself from the seat?
Is rolling inverted recommended - to fall out - or just jump as high as possible?
Seems like incredibly quick reactions on this pilot's part.
Makes you realise the contrast between WW2 era bail outs and todays pulling of the black and yellow handle...
Is there a canopy jettison lever?
How do you separate yourself from the seat?
Is rolling inverted recommended - to fall out - or just jump as high as possible?
Seems like incredibly quick reactions on this pilot's part.
Makes you realise the contrast between WW2 era bail outs and todays pulling of the black and yellow handle...
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P-51s had a notice on the instrument panel advising the pilot to lower the seat before jettisoning the canopy - I think the jettison lever is on the right hand side. In general, I think the advice for most WWII fighters was to roll inverted if you had the time and altitude, but otherwise try to go out low and sideways, so hopefully you went under the elevator. Frankly though, in the circumstances of an incident like this, I'm not sure you'd have time to think.
It is good to see that nobody was seriously hurt. Sad to see a warbird written off, but that is less important.
It is good to see that nobody was seriously hurt. Sad to see a warbird written off, but that is less important.
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Originally Posted by SASless
What damage was done to the Mustang to render it unflyable? All the big bits seem still attached in the photo.
Looking at the P-51 Haynes Manual, you can make out control cables passing through that area, and its near the tail assembly bulkhead.
As pagen01 said earlier, what a decision to be made in nanoseconds.
Maybe from afar in sections of the general public, warbird pilots could be viewed as just having capacious wallets, this incident has proved.......as if you needed convincing.....that successful and safe operation of warbirds requires great skills as well as quick minds, and not just the required large bank balance.
As a PPL, perched on the bottom rung of the great aviation ladder, I doff my cap to the two pilots in todays incident, as well as to every pilot who displayed at Legends and who display warbirds everyday round the world.
As pagen01 said earlier, what a decision to be made in nanoseconds.
Maybe from afar in sections of the general public, warbird pilots could be viewed as just having capacious wallets, this incident has proved.......as if you needed convincing.....that successful and safe operation of warbirds requires great skills as well as quick minds, and not just the required large bank balance.
As a PPL, perched on the bottom rung of the great aviation ladder, I doff my cap to the two pilots in todays incident, as well as to every pilot who displayed at Legends and who display warbirds everyday round the world.
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Originally Posted by thunderbird7
Anyone know who was flying the P51?
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Your flying along nicely and then there is a huge smack, you suddenly pitch down towards the ground.(which isn't very far away)
1 Bail out
2 Hang around to find out the kites technical merits
1 Bail out
2 Hang around to find out the kites technical merits
I'm wondering if the collision did indeed sever some flying controls.
It appears that the Mustang might have been under quite a bit of negative g, which would explain the apparent ease of the escape.
Putting the armchair back into the garage and awaiting AAIB repoprt.
It appears that the Mustang might have been under quite a bit of negative g, which would explain the apparent ease of the escape.
Putting the armchair back into the garage and awaiting AAIB repoprt.