UK Harriers to be sold to US Marines for £34M - Telegraph
You're joking aren't you? The yanks have borrowed our forces and stole our peace for years by dragging us into their conflicts, costing us money and the safety on our own streets from home grown terrorism.
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MoD Denies Telegraph Story
It seems there is some doubt over the Telegraph claim. MoD denies sale of Harriers to US - Defence Management
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And There's More - perhaps?
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Reversing the defence cuts is one U-turn Cameron should take - Telegraph
How reliable is the 'reliable' information - para 7 et seq?
Reversing the defence cuts is one U-turn Cameron should take - Telegraph
How reliable is the 'reliable' information - para 7 et seq?
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Safety on our own streets??? you're having a laugh. When were you ever effected by home grown terrorism??? (I have been....and guys who almost nailed me were not Muslims. Happened on 11 Sept as well). If it wasn't the Iraq and Afghan wars, it would be Cartoons about the Prophet or some other silliness (in our eyes) that the will cause the islamic hotheads to try and kill somebody. Anyhow we are in Afghan because of NATO, not the USA.
Rightly or wrongly held opinion it may be, but I dont recollect any Islamic terror attacks in the UK prior to the Iraq invasion?
edit: UK underlined just for FodPlod
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" Rightly or wrongly held opinion it may be, but I dont recollect any Islamic terror attacks in the UK prior to the Iraq invasion?"
Marks and Spencer bomb, I think 1982 or 1983.
Not counting the few anti Israeli terrorist incidents (bombs, assassinations)
but I would put those in a different category anyway.
Marks and Spencer bomb, I think 1982 or 1983.
Not counting the few anti Israeli terrorist incidents (bombs, assassinations)
but I would put those in a different category anyway.
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"Rightly or wrongly held opinion it may be, but I dont recollect any Islamic terror attacks in the UK prior to the Iraq invasion? "
possibly because the heightened security due to the IRAs activities made it difficult for ANYONE to acquire arms / bombs in the UK. The Islamic "spectaculars" in the UK have all been post the IRA "ceasefire" and resultant relaxation in security
and think on these
PAM AM 103 - 21 December 1988
BOAC 775 - 9 September 1970 (not IN Britain, but a British aircraft)
Policewoman Yvonne Fletcher murdered 17 April 1984
and on a more general basis, think of the numerous attacks by Muslim groups in Europe in the 1970's. Except they were called "Arabs" in those days, not Islamics.
possibly because the heightened security due to the IRAs activities made it difficult for ANYONE to acquire arms / bombs in the UK. The Islamic "spectaculars" in the UK have all been post the IRA "ceasefire" and resultant relaxation in security
and think on these
PAM AM 103 - 21 December 1988
BOAC 775 - 9 September 1970 (not IN Britain, but a British aircraft)
Policewoman Yvonne Fletcher murdered 17 April 1984
and on a more general basis, think of the numerous attacks by Muslim groups in Europe in the 1970's. Except they were called "Arabs" in those days, not Islamics.
MoD denies sale of Harriers to US
MoD denies sale of Harriers to US - Defence Management
The Ministry of Defence has denied reports that Britain's Harrier jump jets are to be sold to the US Marine Corps for spare parts.
A report in The Daily Telegraph suggested a £34m deal had already been finalised, and a 'Ministry of Defence insider' quoted in the newspaper said that selling Harriers to the US was "not a bad option in terms of cooperation".....
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MoD denies sale of Harriers to US - Defence Management
The Ministry of Defence has denied reports that Britain's Harrier jump jets are to be sold to the US Marine Corps for spare parts.
A report in The Daily Telegraph suggested a £34m deal had already been finalised, and a 'Ministry of Defence insider' quoted in the newspaper said that selling Harriers to the US was "not a bad option in terms of cooperation".....
TJ
Originally Posted by Chainkicker
I suspect you will find he is using Iraq as the marker, not AFG.
Rightly or wrongly held opinion it may be, but I dont recollect any Islamic terror attacks in the UK prior to the Iraq invasion?
Rightly or wrongly held opinion it may be, but I dont recollect any Islamic terror attacks in the UK prior to the Iraq invasion?
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nice play by the Telegraph
force the Government into a denial and so prevent any decision from being made, so giving a breathing space for a reconsideration of reactivation / regeneration
force the Government into a denial and so prevent any decision from being made, so giving a breathing space for a reconsideration of reactivation / regeneration
The Telegraph is becoming quite the paper of choice to "place" selected stories. Wonder how serious Mr Fox was when he said criminal action will be taken against those who leak stories.
As for Con Coughlins bit. Wow - he really needs to keep a good lookout for the black Omegas to arrive at his front door with some of the "accusations" he throws around!!!
Trouble is whenever I see the phrases "I am reliably informed" and "I'm told" I always think "I have made up"
(or "I have read a post on PPRuNe from someone who makes out that they are 'in the know' so it must be true"
)
As for Con Coughlins bit. Wow - he really needs to keep a good lookout for the black Omegas to arrive at his front door with some of the "accusations" he throws around!!!
I am reliably informed that the decision to sell the Harriers, which was only taken yesterday, was an act of vengeance against Admiral Stanhope for daring to suggest that the Government might wish to reconsider its decision to scrap a vital maritime capability.
In January, the MoD ordered BAE Systems to commit a wanton act of vandalism by ripping the wings off the new billion-pound fleet of Nimrod surveillance aircraft, to ensure there could be no further argument over its future. This, I’m told, was the MoD’s way of punishing BAE for refusing to compromise on the contracts to build two new aircraft carriers.
(or "I have read a post on PPRuNe from someone who makes out that they are 'in the know' so it must be true")
Originally Posted by What the Fug
You can't file the PLO under Islamic seeing as some of their top guys were Christian ( George Habash )
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"Aren't the lists long enough without the occasional discrepancy? Habash shared the same causes as Baader-Meinhoff, Black September, the Red Army, etc., but only the Islamic fundamentalists have prevailed through to the present."
That's not surprising considering BH, BS and RA either ended up shot dead or in prison and had quite small bases compared to the "fundamentalists".
That's not surprising considering BH, BS and RA either ended up shot dead or in prison and had quite small bases compared to the "fundamentalists".
Back on topic... it's official:
Also see MoD denies sale of Harriers to US on Defence Management.com
Originally Posted by MoD Official News Blog
British Harrier fleet sale
The Daily Telegraph reported today that the British Harrier fleet is to be sold in a £34m deal. As decided in the SDSR, Harrier aircraft will be disposed of through whatever means will get best value-for-money for the UK taxpayer while ensuring appropriate future use of the assets. Discussions about options for disposal are ongoing.
The Daily Telegraph reported today that the British Harrier fleet is to be sold in a £34m deal. As decided in the SDSR, Harrier aircraft will be disposed of through whatever means will get best value-for-money for the UK taxpayer while ensuring appropriate future use of the assets. Discussions about options for disposal are ongoing.
