Lost Navy SEALS Helo.....Wot really happened??
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Lost Navy SEALS Helo.....Wot really happened??
Any ideas what could have happened to the lost helo....
Rumours so far:-
1 Technical problem....mmmm chances during a fast roping SF Op.....remote
2 Stalled.....well, guess that would be pilot error (with an SF crew?)
Shouldn't happen I reckon....
3 Heavy landing....interesting! might just tie in with a stall, 'specially if they were all pumped up, gung ho.....and American!!
I'm not a rotary bod but this is a rumour network, so thought I would ask the question....within the bounds of Opsec...obviously
Cheers guys....an gals
Rumours so far:-
1 Technical problem....mmmm chances during a fast roping SF Op.....remote
2 Stalled.....well, guess that would be pilot error (with an SF crew?)
Shouldn't happen I reckon....
3 Heavy landing....interesting! might just tie in with a stall, 'specially if they were all pumped up, gung ho.....and American!!
I'm not a rotary bod but this is a rumour network, so thought I would ask the question....within the bounds of Opsec...obviously
Cheers guys....an gals
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I would say its likely that the pilots just got over excited, didn't notice the falling airspeed and stalled without sufficient height to pull up and recover.
However, I do know that the Flux Capacitor on that particular type of helicopter has been prone to a lot of technical failure so we shouldn't rule out that as a cause.
I guess we will all just have to wait and see what the accident report says when they publish it on the internet.
However, I do know that the Flux Capacitor on that particular type of helicopter has been prone to a lot of technical failure so we shouldn't rule out that as a cause.
I guess we will all just have to wait and see what the accident report says when they publish it on the internet.
Heavy landing....interesting! might just tie in with a stall, 'specially if they were all pumped up, gung ho.....and American!!
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blackhawk, elevation about 4000 feet
my guess is that it was a shoot down. the chopper is in pretty bad shape. and yeah some of the crew were injured and one civilian on the ground was killed when the chopper came down.
my guess is that it was a shoot down. the chopper is in pretty bad shape. and yeah some of the crew were injured and one civilian on the ground was killed when the chopper came down.
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the elevation of the target area is 4000 feet. they were probably flying low level.
as far as i know. the crew was injured.
here is one of the first pics that came out
as far as i know. the crew was injured.
here is one of the first pics that came out
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Without knowing the OAT and associated DA, one can't really say, but the little I know about the H-60 and its variants would suggest the crash was probably not performance related.
Anyone else with better data?
JW
Anyone else with better data?
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that photo is deceiving, as the assault team destroyed the chopper when they realized that it was not going to be flying outta there. All crew transferred to backup blackhawk
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Temp was 19 deg dropping to 16 deg by 0400.
Temp was 19 deg dropping to 16 deg by 0400.
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Heavy landing....interesting! might just tie in with a stall, 'specially if they were all pumped up, gung ho.....and American!!
Wasn't there a thread recently which featured a video of a Blackhawk almost colliding with the uprushing earth? I recall the Pprune BoI attributed that particular near-miss to over-zealous pilotry.
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It looks like an SH-60 tail. To the OP, having worked with the 160th SOAR and being a member of Air Force rescue, working with HH-60s, I resent the statement in your theory number 3. Pumped up and gung ho maybe, but not sure what being American has todo with it.
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At this point, the public doesn't know if it crashed or not. What we do know is that it was blown up, per standard procedures for unrecoverable sensitive equipment.