Airmen shot Frankfurt March 2nd
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Airmen shot Frankfurt March 2nd
RIP to the one that died and speedy recovery to the other 2 x airmen injured in this
UPDATE: USAFE Airmen killed in shooting were from Ramstein, Lakenheath
Though I thought since R-M closed and handed over back to the locals that all passenger flights were divided between Spang and Ramstein?
All the best
UPDATE: USAFE Airmen killed in shooting were from Ramstein, Lakenheath
Though I thought since R-M closed and handed over back to the locals that all passenger flights were divided between Spang and Ramstein?
All the best
The assailant, Arid Uka, a 20 year old Kosovan Muslim who officials say recently became radicalised, shouted "Allahu akbar" as he emptied his handgun aboard an Air Force bus, killing 2 airmen and seriously injuring 2 others. He then fled the scene, but was overpowered and arrested in an airport terminal.
(From various sources).
Should he be found guilty, could he be extradited to the US to be executed? Or would some €uro-nanny state 'human rights' nonsense prevent that.
(From various sources).
Should he be found guilty, could he be extradited to the US to be executed? Or would some €uro-nanny state 'human rights' nonsense prevent that.
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This post is below your usual high standard.
German law is the applicable one and it doesn't provide for execution, I'm pleased to say. Nor for extradition to a country in which no offence has taken place. Nor for extradition to any country in which the extraditee may be subject to the death penalty - multiple treaty commitments provide for this, even before European human rights legislation.
Even the US usually tries and convicts people before executing them.
This post is below your usual high standard.
German law is the applicable one and it doesn't provide for execution, I'm pleased to say. Nor for extradition to a country in which no offence has taken place. Nor for extradition to any country in which the extraditee may be subject to the death penalty - multiple treaty commitments provide for this, even before European human rights legislation.
Even the US usually tries and convicts people before executing them.
Even the US usually tries and convicts people before executing them.
Anyway, convicted murderers should certainly face the possibility of lawful execution, in my opinion.
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One wonders why there are so few young Christian men running around yelling "God is great" before killing a group of muslims for no apparent reason yet the reverse is, somehow, becoming something of the norm.
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If I may say so, you are entirely within your rights to express your opinion; it is one with which I, personally, agree. However, even if I didn't agree, I would defend your right to express it.
RIP and Best Wishes to those affected.
STH
If I may say so, you are entirely within your rights to express your opinion; it is one with which I, personally, agree. However, even if I didn't agree, I would defend your right to express it.
RIP and Best Wishes to those affected.
STH
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Hence the reason I wrote "Should he be found guilty"....
Of course it is your right to express your opinion. I have the opposite one. Yes (some) young Muslims are developping a reputation for killing non-Muslims whilst people from a Judeo-Christian culture don't tend to. I like to be part of a culture that doesn't habitually kill people, and would like to remain so.
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I like to be part of a culture that doesn't habitually kill people, and would like to remain so.
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Germany abolished the death penalty in its constitution in 1949 (founding date of [west] germany). Not because of some euro nanny human rights stuff, but because of its very special recent past. To allow the state to kill its inhabitants was seen as the first step towards killing millions of them.
The constitution of the state Hessen of which frankfurt is a part in general still allows the death penalty, however federal law supercedes that. As mentioned above deportation into states that allow the death penalty in the tried case are not allowed.
The constitution of the state Hessen of which frankfurt is a part in general still allows the death penalty, however federal law supercedes that. As mentioned above deportation into states that allow the death penalty in the tried case are not allowed.
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Unfortunately, in such cases as these, the death penalty is pointless. The fanaticals are going to carry out these atrocities without regard for the consequences and the only way to change that is by promoting the right moral values and rooting out the immoderate religious zealots.
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Unfortunately, in such cases as these, the death penalty is pointless. The fanaticals are going to carry out these atrocities without regard for the consequences and the only way to change that is by promoting the right moral values and rooting out the immoderate religious zealots.
Should he be found guilty, could he be extradited to the US to be executed? Or would some €uro-nanny state 'human rights' nonsense prevent that.
He must have realised there was a good chance he would get shot anyway during his spree - so his mentality is akin to a suicide bomber. Hence death penalty is no deterrant. Stopping the brain washing that leads to the suicide bomber mentality is the only, or main, practical answer.
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Unfortunately, in such cases as these, the death penalty is pointless.
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Probably one hell of a lot cheaper than keeping the murdering scum in prison for life!?????????? said ........
It is cheaper - but do we really have to lower ourselves to the scum that take life?
If the Death Penalty worked,, the US would not suffer the significant number of deaths each year; It doesn't. And who are we to lower ourselves to their standards.
Anyway, more lives are lost on the roads in Germany than being shot!
It is cheaper - but do we really have to lower ourselves to the scum that take life?
If the Death Penalty worked,, the US would not suffer the significant number of deaths each year; It doesn't. And who are we to lower ourselves to their standards.
Anyway, more lives are lost on the roads in Germany than being shot!
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I think he should be given extensive (and expensive) rehabilitation, the right to vote in whichever country he chooses, and the opportunity to see the 'west' in all it's multicultural, Notting Hill Carnival glory. We need to be more inclusive. Making a martyr of this individual will only increase the number of people willing to follow in his footsteps. Engagement strategy is the only realistic option, however unpalatable that may be in the short term. And that, unless I am very much mistaken, is the long game is it not?
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It is cheaper - but do we really have to lower ourselves to the scum that take life?
If the Death Penalty worked,, the US would not suffer the significant number of deaths each year; It doesn't. And who are we to lower ourselves to their standards.
If the Death Penalty worked,, the US would not suffer the significant number of deaths each year; It doesn't. And who are we to lower ourselves to their standards.
The death penaly would certainly work if it were properly administered. There is no fear of the act of execution since the act is done in such a :"humane" way... I believe the deterrent effect would be much greater if we were to hang, draw and quarter the guilty... Publicly.