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Old 18th Jan 2011, 09:34
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All RAF Harrier pilots already have a new cockpit/job
Errr...not quite. Some mates of mine with at least 2 op tours under their belts are currently wearing blue, filing paperclips and straightening chairs for the 5000-odd senior officers still resident in RAF Buckinghamshire!!!

Prospects of a cockpit looking slim with limited places on Tiffy and GR4 OCUs!

Good luck to 'em.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 11:23
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Jayland, I hope these are real jobs and not mark-time to redundancy. Remember there is time for a full tour in a non-job before tranche 2 or 3.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 17:29
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All RAF Harrier pilots already have a new cockpit/job
Errr...not quite. Some mates of mine with at least 2 op tours under their belts are currently wearing blue, filing paperclips and straightening chairs for the 5000-odd senior officers still resident in RAF Buckinghamshire whilst still drawing flying pay.
Filing paperclips and straightning chairs is still a job, albeit a very dull one. Maybe they could come back to Rutland or other bases and cover duties like the Audit Board Members whilst those of us who are doing 2, 3 or 4 jobs can concentrate on doing our primary role.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 17:44
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...no it isn't.....
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 18:20
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Jayand - from what I heard very few 2 winged master race will be chopped from the Kipper fleet, they have all squirreled [sic] away UAS and other such pointless postings
Well I guess you heard wrong. There are a few UAS sqn cdr posts for Nimrod personnel, and a few of the pilots might get a hold on an AEF whilst they wait for another OCU or an alternative future. Sat at ISK doing no flying or flying with a UAS/AEF doing something useful and gaining some valuable experience. Not sure why that is such an issue?

You should be aware that there may not be any JO pilot redundancies. Then again until the DIN is published, we just wont know for certain, will we?
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 18:45
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Roly, old bean, I feel so sorry for chaps (and chapesses...chapthings) with your years of experience, drive and initiative.

Who have been sold up the river by 't Bungling Baron and the 13 years of Blair and Broon wrecking our economy.

Whilst getting some stick time at a UAS/AEF might be a lot more fun than counting paperclips for desk-sucking blotter-jotters at Hot Air Command, I can't help but wonder how the impressionable youngsters flying with such holding pilots would view the future RAF.

But a holding squadron of Hawks (which any bugger can fly, they are so pi$$-easy), to keep pilot skills current might be a different matter....

However, none of the above will keep maritime rear crew skills adequately current.

Thank you for destroying the country, Bliar and Broon....
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 10:51
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"However, none of the above will keep maritime rear crew skills adequately current"
Current for what? they will be getting the axe very shortly and currency will be the last of their worries.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 12:49
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I think BEagle may be on to a winner with his idea of a Hawk holding squadron. All you'd need is an airfield near to some decent low flying and an air-to-ground range (somewhere like North Devon maybe) and at minimal cost you could hone young pilots' skills in tactics and weaponry... only thing is, I'm stuck for what such a unit might be called - any suggestions?

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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 17:06
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Years served * one months pay (tax free but not including specialist pay, ie Flying pay) * 1.5

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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 17:38
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only thing is, I'm stuck for what such a unit might be called - any suggestions?
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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 17:38
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Maybe you could fill such a unit with lots of instructor pilots recently returned from op tours whose FJ types have just gone out of service. They'd be invaluable passing on the knowledge with a few QWIs for the latest generic tactics and weaponry. Maybe 3 waves a day, a few pairs and the odd 4 ship. You could split the course into two phases, maybe an AD Phase for the guys going Typhoon and a gnd attack phase for the guys going..........well Typhoon I guess. Can't think of a suitable name either. Devon a bit remote though as locations go and not much to do at weekends, no decent pubs, beaches not great, surf a bit flat I hear. Valley would be a much better location!
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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 18:13
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Old 24th Jan 2011, 17:57
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A friend - wife of a senior officer Nav - of Mrs Whyte reports that her hubby has been told his job is safe.

Do all senior officers have such important jobs that none are vulnerable in the forthcoming redundancy tranches, or has their stay/go selection process been completed already?

Seems a bit odd that friend of Mrs W seemed so certain of her hubby's job security given SDSR numbers were announced relatively recently, and us mere mortals won't find out T1 names until September, although I accept some may get a heads up sooner, perhaps.

Anyone heard of anything different (and bearing in mind this is a rumour network).
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Old 24th Jan 2011, 18:07
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Back in December the Navy saw fit to keep their personnel informed about the upcoming redundancies and issued a Galaxy Briefing Note.
Along with details of the programme and key dates were details of those cadres excluded from the redundancy programme.
Maybe the SO in question is in one of those cadres.

http://www.nff.org.uk/pdfdocs/redund...me_dec2010.pdf
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Old 24th Jan 2011, 18:15
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I think that's Nav, not Navy fella.
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Old 24th Jan 2011, 19:55
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Damn these eyes of mine!!

Does beg the question though, if the Navy can do it why can't the other Services?
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Old 24th Jan 2011, 22:51
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Maybe they could come back to Rutland or other bases and cover duties like the Audit Board Members whilst those of us who are doing 2, 3 or 4 jobs can concentrate on doing our primary role.
But if you weren't doing 4 other jobs, whilst pretending to do your primary role in your sleep, how on earth would you ever compete on the promotion board??

Board members over the last couple of years appear to inhabit a parallel universe in which everyone's primary duties are a piece of piss and can be completed without so much as a second thought! Just wait until the number of 'biffs' occupying supervisory roles on flying sqns starts to increase - we'll have some great creches and summer balls, but the operational output will be rubbish. Plus we will have accumulated a pool of passed-over, pissed-off Flt Lts who work 50-hour weeks covering for the 'biffs' and get an SO3 ground tour as a thank-you for their efforts...
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