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Old 15th Jan 2011, 13:20
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Does anyone know whether the 5000 figure includes natural wastage? There seems to be an awful lot of that going on at the moment, not least amongst the most experienced personnel we have.
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 14:04
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Its where it leaves the RAF in 3 years wiuth a shutdown training pipeline, the only experience outside of afghanistan/iraq leaving and sod all experience elsewhere.

But then again, post Haddon-Cave, we learned we were a safety driven culture, not a resource driven one. Didnt we?

Do as I say, not as I do springs to mind.

Does anyone else think the threat of reduced redundancy payments post 2013 is little more than an opportunity for the seniors to frontload the redundancies and get away with it in the eyes of our naeive personnel?
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 14:35
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Does anyone else think the threat of reduced redundancy payments post 2013 is little more than an opportunity for the seniors to frontload the redundancies and get away with it in the eyes of our naeive personnel?
Nope. I take it you haven't seen some of the 'further down the line' manpower figures for the 3 Forces then? We won't be filling 1st Division football stadiums, never mind the Premiere League.
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 14:50
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http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/33B5F...Provisions.pdf

If any one is interested a link to the DIN.
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 15:37
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Do I understand that the drop in redundancy payout from 9 months pay to 3 months pay in April 2013, only applies to those on AFPS75?

Are there any similar gotchas for those on AFPS05 or does the 12 months max payout continue post Apr 2013?

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Old 15th Jan 2011, 17:52
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Resettlement Grant

Anyone have a link and/or info on the resettlement grants for those unlucky enough to be made redundant and not an IP? Only just realised I'll qualify for it if made redundant as a non-applicant.......not that it makes this mess any better!
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Old 15th Jan 2011, 20:29
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I think the resettlement grant is a separate thing to the redundancy payment isn't it?
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Old 16th Jan 2011, 10:49
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Just This Once..

Some areas are looking at heavy % losses (such as NCA) and the big idea is to 'slice off the side of the pyramid' ...as the abstract and impenetrable staff-speak goes.
As opposed to making the sides of the pyramid steeper, it looks like we'll finally see the loss of some senior rank levels to retain the shape of the pyramid. I guess that will lead to savings like this:

Fox takes his spending axe to Forces 'Ferrero Rocher Club': High-ranking military attaches to be cut back.

The Minister is said to be committed to stopping ‘jobs for the boys’, with military attaché roles given to senior ranks earning £85,000 to £101,000 a year.

He wants to replace them, where possible, with Majors or Captains on salaries of £38,000 to £57,000.
Whatever next? Wg Cdrs in charge of Stations and Gp Capts in charge of Groups?
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Old 16th Jan 2011, 11:05
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And of course no country will be slighted by the UK only rating them worthy of a Major as Defence Attache. He's all over this diplomacy stuff
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He wants to replace them, where possible, with Majors or Captains
Excellent news for Majors & Captains. Hope we have enough of them for these new posts.
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Resettlement Grant

JTIDS,

I believe you are correct and that as well as receiving a SCP, a person on an engagement, which, if it were to run its full course, would not result in an IP, will also receive a resettlement grant provided they have completed the minimum service requirement :

A Resettlement Grant (RG) may be payable in addition to a SCP. To qualify for a RG, an Officer or Other Rank must serve 9 years from age 21 or 12 years from age 18 respectively and not be entitled to receive an Immediate Pension on termination of service.

Just not sure on the figure but will get my head in the JSP and chase it up.
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Old 17th Jan 2011, 12:54
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No worries...

No worries guy's...

Diamond Dave says the private sector will pick up all the redundancies and his mates in the Banking industry will lend lots of cash to make it so.

I do hope all those who voted blue are pleased with themselves...

Suckered...!!!

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Old 17th Jan 2011, 13:17
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Shouldn't you change your username to "out now", or "retired", or "ex-military" or some such phrase...?
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I do hope all those who voted blue are pleased with themselves...
and I hope all those that voted red for 3 terms are very pleased with themselves.
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Old 17th Jan 2011, 18:01
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Much as I hate to bring this back round to the subject in hand!

Anyone know if the RG is taxed or not?

Also anyone want to bet how many pilots are offered redundancy across the tranches, esp given the current excess numbers!
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Old 17th Jan 2011, 21:14
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JTIDS, how about 1.5 x the number of seats that have been withdrawn?

All R1/MR2 pilots, all Harrier pilots, all Dominie pilots, and not a few AT at a guess. Not a pretty picture at all.
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 00:07
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All R1/MR2 pilots, all Harrier pilots, all Dominie pilots, and not a few AT
plus, I mean minus, Sentinel
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 06:20
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All RAF Harrier pilots already have a new cockpit/job. It's the 111 boys I feel sorry for....
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 09:15
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SS, where did they all go?
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Old 18th Jan 2011, 09:21
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Pontious I don't know about that, from what I heard very few 2 winged master race will be chopped from the Kipper fleet, they have all squirreled away UAS and other such pointless postings, so much for the triangle remaining balanced!
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