New Falklands War Brewing
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In your previous post you were almost realistic:
I think is a good thing to balance the expectations a bit by painting not so unlikely, far less glorious, even embarrasing scenarios.
An invasion of hundreds of Argentine civilians, old, young, men, women, setting op dozens of camps, looking happy, making music and singing around camp fires.
Little problems like a sewage, food, heating fuel, dry ground, shelter. I love the idea of camp fires. What do you suggest they use for fuel? the old need medical care and medicines, civilians are largely untrained in adventurous activities at any time let alone sub-arctic survival.
Try and think inside the box first before you try and open it.
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Keesje,
My question was why do you support Argentina's claim to the Falklands despite the islanders expressing their wish to stay British but then claim that Venezuela would have no claim to Aruba despite them being much closer to the mainland
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My question was why do you support Argentina's claim to the Falklands despite the islanders expressing their wish to stay British but then claim that Venezuela would have no claim to Aruba despite them being much closer to the mainland
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Venezuela considers part of British Guyana as part of their country, hence their support of Argentina.
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All Anglo presence on the continent is seen as nothing less than piracy.
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All Anglo presence on the continent is seen as nothing less than piracy.
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Wiki lists the range as 8,000nm and GCMap suggests a great circle of 6,834nm from Brize. Divs could be a problem - and it would certainly be a whole lot easier if we'd ordered tankers that could themselves receive....
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Wiki lists the range as 8,000nm and GCMap suggests a great circle of 6,834nm from Brize. Divs could be a problem - and it would certainly be a whole lot easier if we'd ordered tankers that could themselves receive....
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Could the Brits rely upon the Obama Administration to be as friendly as was the Reagan Administration?
If they did effect a sizable landing but not go after the British Forces in totality, ignored the Airfield....but maintained a well defended enclave....would it force the Brits to make parley.....or make War again?
How are the Argies going to do that without air cover?
GF....that was an American Administration that was very friendly with the UK....that is not the case today at all. Draw your own impressions from that. The current guy is half Kenyan and his alleged Father was not all that friendly to the UK either.
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SASLess, that is the same administration (the one you said wouldn't win) that has twice in the last week urged us not to cut defence spending and to ensure we retain capability.
Keesje,
I see that you are quoting and presenting articles from Argentine Minister of Foreign Relations, Héctor Timerman. Have you ever seen the presentation at the UN by Timerman? This is the man that claimed that HMS Vanguard (SSBN) was deployed in the South Atlantic and that you obviously take as fact.
See from 04:20
The fun and games continue at 06:56 with claims that the UK has deployed Taurus missiles on Eurofighter Typhoons in the Falklands.
The presentation was poorly researched and made him look like an idiot. If this was compiled using information from Argentine Intelligence then they need sacking. The 'researcher' simply lifted the Taurus missile image from Wiki. If he/she had scrolled down then they would have found out who operates Taurus. Certainly not the UK.
File:Taurus ILA2006.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
KEPD 350 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See more fun and games at 07:56 and another example of idiocy where he points out 'RADAR HF SUPERDARN'. He claims that it is some sort of super secret world wide communications network and part of the militarization of the South Atlantic. Obviously the compiler of the 'research' is into conspiracy theories. It is like the conspiracy loons that think High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is a military weapon and used to control the weather and cause earthquakes. Is this the best that Argentine Military Intelligence can do? Timerman was made to look like a complete idiot. In reality it is an international project that includes China, Japan and several other nations and data is made available on the internet.
The HF radar is located at Goose Green.
http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/.../0x0/radar.jpg
Radar system in the Falklands to monitor the Southern Lights
The radar at Goose Green joins the SuperDARN network and the data is made available on the internet.
SuperDARN: What is SuperDARN
SuperDARN: Radars List
There is also a SuperDARN radar in the Falklands that is funded by the US as part of the international project
Falkland islands radar study impacts climate research — University of Leicester
The fields of view of the Falkland Islands radar and other SuperDARN radars in the southern hemisphere (SuperDARN website).
SuperDARN Observations of Polar Mesospheric Summer Echoes — University of Leicester
I see that you are quoting and presenting articles from Argentine Minister of Foreign Relations, Héctor Timerman. Have you ever seen the presentation at the UN by Timerman? This is the man that claimed that HMS Vanguard (SSBN) was deployed in the South Atlantic and that you obviously take as fact.
See from 04:20
The fun and games continue at 06:56 with claims that the UK has deployed Taurus missiles on Eurofighter Typhoons in the Falklands.
The presentation was poorly researched and made him look like an idiot. If this was compiled using information from Argentine Intelligence then they need sacking. The 'researcher' simply lifted the Taurus missile image from Wiki. If he/she had scrolled down then they would have found out who operates Taurus. Certainly not the UK.
File:Taurus ILA2006.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
KEPD 350 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See more fun and games at 07:56 and another example of idiocy where he points out 'RADAR HF SUPERDARN'. He claims that it is some sort of super secret world wide communications network and part of the militarization of the South Atlantic. Obviously the compiler of the 'research' is into conspiracy theories. It is like the conspiracy loons that think High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is a military weapon and used to control the weather and cause earthquakes. Is this the best that Argentine Military Intelligence can do? Timerman was made to look like a complete idiot. In reality it is an international project that includes China, Japan and several other nations and data is made available on the internet.
What is SuperDARN
SuperDARN stands for Super Dual Auroral Radar Network. This network consists of over 20 radars operating on frequencies between 8 and 20 MHz and looking into the polar regions of the Earth. These radars can measure the position and velocity of charged particles in the Earth's ionosphere, the highest layer of the Earth's atmosphere. Because the movements of these particles are tied to the movements of the Earth's magnetic field which, in turn, extends into space, SuperDARN data provides scientists with information regarding the Earth's interaction with the space environment.
SuperDARN stands for Super Dual Auroral Radar Network. This network consists of over 20 radars operating on frequencies between 8 and 20 MHz and looking into the polar regions of the Earth. These radars can measure the position and velocity of charged particles in the Earth's ionosphere, the highest layer of the Earth's atmosphere. Because the movements of these particles are tied to the movements of the Earth's magnetic field which, in turn, extends into space, SuperDARN data provides scientists with information regarding the Earth's interaction with the space environment.
http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/.../0x0/radar.jpg
The Falklands radar is funded by the Natural Environment Research Council (NERC). The radar is collaboration between the University of Leicester which supplied the masts, and BAS, which provided the electronic equipment.
“The electronics come from a long-established BAS radar station which is currently being moved and rebuilt because it’s on an ice shelf which is slipping into the sea,” explains Dr Milan. “When the equipment came back to the UK for refurbishment, we realized that we could combine it with a spare set of antennas and temporarily establish a station on the Falklands.”
The radar station was built with the aid of engineers from Leicester and BAS over several weeks at the start of this year and went operational on 14 February. It is based at Goose Green, a remote community which was the site of a famous battle during the 1982 Falklands conflict.
“The electronics come from a long-established BAS radar station which is currently being moved and rebuilt because it’s on an ice shelf which is slipping into the sea,” explains Dr Milan. “When the equipment came back to the UK for refurbishment, we realized that we could combine it with a spare set of antennas and temporarily establish a station on the Falklands.”
The radar station was built with the aid of engineers from Leicester and BAS over several weeks at the start of this year and went operational on 14 February. It is based at Goose Green, a remote community which was the site of a famous battle during the 1982 Falklands conflict.
The radar at Goose Green joins the SuperDARN network and the data is made available on the internet.
SuperDARN: What is SuperDARN
SuperDARN: Radars List
There is also a SuperDARN radar in the Falklands that is funded by the US as part of the international project
Falkland islands radar study impacts climate research — University of Leicester
The fields of view of the Falkland Islands radar and other SuperDARN radars in the southern hemisphere (SuperDARN website).
SuperDARN Observations of Polar Mesospheric Summer Echoes — University of Leicester
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On serious note, what would it take in terms of hardware and troops to invade Argentina and, crucially, if we colonised them would it be of any use to our economy or, alternatively, couldn't we send many of the UK's new immigrants there if we owned it (a bit like sending rascals to Australia).
Perhaps we could rename Argentina "Fieldhouseland" after Sir John Fieldhouse the Naval Commander of the Falklands War!
Perhaps we could rename Argentina "Fieldhouseland" after Sir John Fieldhouse the Naval Commander of the Falklands War!
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Oh okay, didn't realise we were going that far down the ladder!
Sharkey Ward is the closest thing the United Kingdom has had to a fighter ace since the Second World War (so they say). A former Commander in the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm he shot down three Argentinian aircraft while flying Sea Harriers during the Falklands War. He was also the commander of 801 Naval Air Squadron on Her Majesty's Ship Invincible during that conflict.
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Sharkey Ward is the closest thing the United Kingdom has had to a fighter ace since the Second World War (so they say). A former Commander in the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm he shot down three Argentinian aircraft while flying Sea Harriers during the Falklands War. He was also the commander of 801 Naval Air Squadron on Her Majesty's Ship Invincible during that conflict.
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