Telegraph: Britain forms plan for Gulf evacuation in event of war with Iran
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We are not all rich tax avoiders you know ! in fact i still pay UK tax at the moment and if anything im contributing more to the UK economy as most of my salary is spent and invested in the UK and is bought in from abroad - so ill be expecting a 4 prop taxi when the **** hits the fan ! (Obviously id prefer emirates business class and will make the necessary arangement should a war become imminant!)
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1) The government that signed the NPT on behalf of the people of Iran was not a democratically elected government. Therefore, their government's accession to the NPT regime cannot be considered to have been done with the free will of the people of Iran.
2) The reason why Iranians did not have a democratically elected government at the helm was because some countries(primarily Britain) overthrew a democratically elected government by engineering a coup and installed a dictator so that the dictator could allow them access to Iranian oil reserves thereby causing losses to the people of Iran.
The Iranians were made to sign the NPT by the use of unlawful interference in their internal affairs. In light of this, would it not be understandable if the Iranians refused to comply with the NPT?
2) The reason why Iranians did not have a democratically elected government at the helm was because some countries(primarily Britain) overthrew a democratically elected government by engineering a coup and installed a dictator so that the dictator could allow them access to Iranian oil reserves thereby causing losses to the people of Iran.
The Iranians were made to sign the NPT by the use of unlawful interference in their internal affairs. In light of this, would it not be understandable if the Iranians refused to comply with the NPT?
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very good analysis this morning on start the week (Radio 4, andrew Marr)
podcast available here:BBC - Podcasts and Downloads - Start the Week with Andrew Marr
podcast available here:BBC - Podcasts and Downloads - Start the Week with Andrew Marr
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I think you misunderstood my post. I know those countries are not part of
the NPT.
Orac said in response to the question
"Anyone question why Iran shouldnt have the bomb? 1. They signed NPT and have to fulfil their obligations. If not sanctions have to be imposed and obeyed to give all other signature nations pause for thought, otherwise you might as well tear it up."
I was just pointing out that depending on who is who in world,
it is OK to supply non signatories with nuclear material.
I am sure the US has supplied Israel. Australia is going to supply India.
And the BS of it's not for nuclear weapons ........., yes well, we shall see.
I think you misunderstood my post. I know those countries are not part of
the NPT.
Orac said in response to the question
"Anyone question why Iran shouldnt have the bomb? 1. They signed NPT and have to fulfil their obligations. If not sanctions have to be imposed and obeyed to give all other signature nations pause for thought, otherwise you might as well tear it up."
I was just pointing out that depending on who is who in world,
it is OK to supply non signatories with nuclear material.
I am sure the US has supplied Israel. Australia is going to supply India.
And the BS of it's not for nuclear weapons ........., yes well, we shall see.
I see, billboard.
All treaties signed by governments with the usual despots in charge are null and void by default, is that it?
Your argument doesn't hold water.
If a government wish to withdraw from a treaty a former government signed, there are up front means of so doing.
Transparent even.
Care to try again?
All treaties signed by governments with the usual despots in charge are null and void by default, is that it?
Your argument doesn't hold water.
If a government wish to withdraw from a treaty a former government signed, there are up front means of so doing.
Transparent even.
Care to try again?
What is all this?
It's funny how a newspaper article which said...
"The British armed forces are drawing up contingency plans to evacuate hundreds of thousands of British residents and tourists from Dubai and other Gulf cities in the event of war with Iran." ...
Has become lost in a debate about who signed up for what with regards to nuclear weapons. I'm fairly new here, does this happen often?
"The British armed forces are drawing up contingency plans to evacuate hundreds of thousands of British residents and tourists from Dubai and other Gulf cities in the event of war with Iran." ...
Has become lost in a debate about who signed up for what with regards to nuclear weapons. I'm fairly new here, does this happen often?
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If we abrogated all treaties not signed by a democratically elected government, there wouldn't be many left.....
All treaties signed by governments with the usual despots in charge are null and void by default, is that it?
Signing the treaty(among other things) could very well just be a form of pay-back by such dictators to their foreign masters. This should be considered in light of the fact that the foreign powers that installed the dictator in Iran were the same powers that were trying to push the NPT down every country's throat back then.
If a government wish to withdraw from a treaty a former government signed, there are up front means of so doing.
