F-22 Raptor missing in Alaska - search underway . . .
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F-22 Raptor missing in Alaska - search underway . . .
F-22 aircraft overdue in reporting
An Air Force F-22 assigned to the 3rd Wing at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, lost contact with air traffic control at 7:40 p.m. Alaska time today while on a routine training mission.
Search under way.
An Air Force F-22 assigned to the 3rd Wing at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, lost contact with air traffic control at 7:40 p.m. Alaska time today while on a routine training mission.
Search under way.
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Was there not a Russian chap in the 70s who flew a Mig-25 into NATO/US hands? Just imagine the reverse has happened here? Alaska is quite close to Russia after all...Imagine our dear friends in Russia or China getting a 'defecting' F-22? - Air Dominance would be challenged in a matter of 5 years....I do hope the pilot is OK tho.
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Shut up Grim. 99.9% chance is the guy is either injured or worse. Please keep your far-fetched derogatory comments to yourself. Here's hoping the guy is found safe. Jets can be replaced, even if they do cost 1/2billion $.
F-22 production line is closed and no further aircraft will be produced. The F-22 program was canceled in July 2009, with production standing at 187 aircraft.
Unit cost was variously reported at between $150million to $361million - just a little short of the $1-2billion alluded to above...
Seems likely this is a sad loss - at time of writing no sign of aircraft or pilot and suggestions from the Pentagon that the aircraft was lost in the Alaskan wilderness.
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Unit cost was variously reported at between $150million to $361million - just a little short of the $1-2billion alluded to above...
Seems likely this is a sad loss - at time of writing no sign of aircraft or pilot and suggestions from the Pentagon that the aircraft was lost in the Alaskan wilderness.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
F-22 production line is closed and no further aircraft will be produced.
Air Force Magazine: It’s Okay to Talk Raptor Again
Nov. 16, 2010—The Air Force has apparently gotten over one of its biggest taboos: talking internally about the possibility of buying more F-22s.
Until recently, USAF was under strict orders not even to think about it, but recent developments have caused the possibility to crop up in some "what if" PowerPoint slides.
Those developments include likely further slips in the F-35 strike fighter's schedule and an upcoming defense acquisition board review of the F-35 expected to be fraught with bad news on cost.
That would come on the heels of various deficit-cutting proposals that already suggest cutting the F-35 buy. Without F-35, Air Force fighter inventories will plummet below minimums in coming years as F-16s age out.
Extending F-22 production could be the dealmaker if F-35 foes carry the day and compel USAF to take mostly new-build F-16s instead. The Raptors would provide the extra stealth force required to make the non-stealthy F-16s acceptable.
Also, if you’ve listened carefully, USAF has gone from saying it will retain a "portion" of F-22 production tooling to "most" and, most recently, to "all."
Gen. William Fraser, head of Air Combat Command, acknowledged last week that Lockheed Martin is filming all F-22 tooling processes as the earliest parts of production shut down, so that it can go back to production of parts—ostensibly for repairs or service life extension—in the future.
Also last week, Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) said he might spearhead an effort to get more F-22s into the budget. But he acknowledged it could be a difficult task given pressures to rein in spending. Gingrey complained bitterly that the Pentagon prematurely terminated F-22 production, centered in Marietta in his Congressional district, before Russia rolled out its own F-22 clone, the PAK FA, last year.
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Searchers find wreck believed to be F-22: Military | adn.com
Not looking good for the pilot. I hope I am wrong though.
Not looking good for the pilot. I hope I am wrong though.
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Unit cost was variously reported at between $150million to $361million - just a little short of the $1-2billion alluded to above
Nothing of the sort was alluded to. Read again and come back with what was written.
A, if still over the top, little more 'reasonable' 1/2, i.e. 0.5, $Bn.
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There is no tale of human tragedy that will not be made more tragic by some half witted, amoral, self interested, scum sucking f***ing politician getting in to big themselves up.
Well said GreenKnight121.
Let us all cross our fingers and keep in mind, and hope, another of our brothers in arms who faces peril.
Well said GreenKnight121.
Let us all cross our fingers and keep in mind, and hope, another of our brothers in arms who faces peril.
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I can only agree with the two posts above.
This is a thread about an aircraft down in a very harsh environment, and some posters seems to think that this is the time to talk of production lines and monetary value!
I have my fingers crossed here, and will await further news on the pilot.
This is a thread about an aircraft down in a very harsh environment, and some posters seems to think that this is the time to talk of production lines and monetary value!
I have my fingers crossed here, and will await further news on the pilot.
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Well, they've found the wreckage but not the pilot. And oh look, it's not in Russia or China.
Search for pilot continues after Alaska jet crash
Good luck to the guy.
Grim: I don't often resort to calling people out on here for being tossers, but you, with no evidence, suggested that someone who may well be dead, had committed high treason with one of the USAF's most prized assets. I suppose you work with F-22s on a daily basis and therefore know that the crews would take your banter in stride? Or, perhaps not. Tosser.
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Search for pilot continues after Alaska jet crash
Good luck to the guy.
Grim: I don't often resort to calling people out on here for being tossers, but you, with no evidence, suggested that someone who may well be dead, had committed high treason with one of the USAF's most prized assets. I suppose you work with F-22s on a daily basis and therefore know that the crews would take your banter in stride? Or, perhaps not. Tosser.
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F-22 pilot missing since Tuesday night plane crash in Alaska identified as Capt. Jeffrey Haney, formerly of Jackson County
The missing pilot of an Air Force F-22 fighter jet that crashed this week in a remote area of interior Alaska is Air Force Capt. Jeffrey A. Haney, whose mother lives in Jackson County, the man Haney calls his stepdad confirmed today.
Mike Viane, who has lived with Haney's mother for more than 20 years, said Haney's mother, Linda, and father are now on a plane to Alaska, where they will join Haney's wife, Anna, and the couple's two young daughters.
The two left this morning and are to arrive before midnight tonight, he said from he and Linda Haney's home on Gillette Road west of Brooklyn.
Haney, 31, has been in the Air Force for about five years, Viane said. He graduated from Columbia Central High School in 1997 and went to flight school at Western Michigan University.......
The missing pilot of an Air Force F-22 fighter jet that crashed this week in a remote area of interior Alaska is Air Force Capt. Jeffrey A. Haney, whose mother lives in Jackson County, the man Haney calls his stepdad confirmed today.
Mike Viane, who has lived with Haney's mother for more than 20 years, said Haney's mother, Linda, and father are now on a plane to Alaska, where they will join Haney's wife, Anna, and the couple's two young daughters.
The two left this morning and are to arrive before midnight tonight, he said from he and Linda Haney's home on Gillette Road west of Brooklyn.
Haney, 31, has been in the Air Force for about five years, Viane said. He graduated from Columbia Central High School in 1997 and went to flight school at Western Michigan University.......