HRH Flt Lt Wales
If the uniform was reintroduced it would enable Bridegrooms and Best men to wear the gold/blue over the jacket sword belt rather than the 'normal fitting' (under the jacket) sword belt that they should wear with No1 SD
Funny how often you see pictures like that reversed, Warmtoast, happens all the time in the papers.
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. The vast majority of others seem to do likewise. The under the jacket belt is the normal fitting with the blue and gold belt generally worn on parade by those that need to draw swords (ie flight and parade commanders) and colour/standard bearers.
That said, I don't think that it constitutes grounds to annul your marriage.
That said, I don't think that it constitutes grounds to annul your marriage.
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A bit of digital mirror image manipulation and it's now the right way round as below.
Funny how often you see pictures like that reversed, Warmtoast, happens all the time in the papers.
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The pre-war Ceremonial is similar-ish to the current Bandmasters uniform - most famously - as has been stated - 'twas worn by HRH Duke of York (later George VI) when he married Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (much later Queen Mum)
There is an interesting precedent for a new or "one off" ceremonial uniform. IIRC, when Capt Mark Phillips married Prinny Annie, his recently amalgamated fractional cavalry (QDG??) hadn't got around to designing a new ceremonial uniform for the new Regt. One was speedily designed, and the first two ever were worn by Capt Phillips and his Best Man (whom memory insists was called Eric - which seems a rather un-cavalry name...)
Don't know if it was then kept for the Regt, which has doubtless amalgamated again .....
There is an interesting precedent for a new or "one off" ceremonial uniform. IIRC, when Capt Mark Phillips married Prinny Annie, his recently amalgamated fractional cavalry (QDG??) hadn't got around to designing a new ceremonial uniform for the new Regt. One was speedily designed, and the first two ever were worn by Capt Phillips and his Best Man (whom memory insists was called Eric - which seems a rather un-cavalry name...)
Don't know if it was then kept for the Regt, which has doubtless amalgamated again .....
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!st The Queen's Dragoon Guards (the Welsh Cavalry) have never been one of the vulgar fractions, being created as an amalgamation of the 1st and 2nd Dragoon Guards in 1958 (some time before the 1973 wedding). Both 1st and 2nd Dragoon Guards were raised in 1685, with QDG holding order of precedence as the senior line cavalry regiment..
!st The Queen's Dragoon Guards (the Welsh Cavalry) have never been one of the vulgar fractions, being created as an amalgamation of the 1st and 2nd Dragoon Guards in 1958 (some time before the 1973 wedding). Both 1st and 2nd Dragoon Guards were raised in 1685, with QDG holding order of precedence as the senior line cavalry regiment..
As EODFelix has rightly said they haven't amalgamated again. I was looking them up in Lt Col Robin Hodges excellent book British Army Badges and that scarlet uniform worn by Captain Phillips for the wedding doesnt seem to figure, officers are portrayed wearing dark blue (or black?) No 1 Dress, so I think it must have been a one-off. Good excuse for Wills to go for it.
They may have a better do if he does. A mate of mine was in Royal Protection and he told me the Windsors are notably stingy when it comes to shelling out their own money. Mind you I guess we'll be paying 
Talking of tradition, is the brides father paying for the do ? 
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Full dress:
"The tunic is scarlet with blue velvet facings and the Austrian knot in yellow cord on the sleeves, with the Bays’ collar badges. A white waist belt with metal plate buckle is worn, and the pouch belts carry the Bays’ badge on a black patent leather pouch box. The officer’s tunic had gold lace, and the waist and pouch belts are of gold lace, with a silver pouch box, carrying the Austrian eagle. The trousers are close cut overalls of blue, with a broad white stripe, worn over black boots with regimental pattern spurs."
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Patrol Dress
"The blue No 1 patrol dress was modified to combine elements of both regiments. The tunic carries the collar badges of the Bays and has chain mail with the shoulder title ’QDG’ in early English lettering. The officers’ blue patrol jacket has no pockets on the skirt, and the sword is secured by two gold-laced straps from under the tunic. The blue overalls have the Bays’ broad white stripe and are worn over black boots with regimental pattern spurs. The cap is KDG design of blue cloth with a blue velvet stripe and the Austrian eagle as cap badge. The peak of the cap had a broad rim of gold lace for the officers, a thinner band of gold lace for warrant officers, and a plain black peak for all other ranks. The pouch belts for officers are as for full dress, with other ranks wearing a white belt with the Austrian eagle on the buckle."
"The tunic is scarlet with blue velvet facings and the Austrian knot in yellow cord on the sleeves, with the Bays’ collar badges. A white waist belt with metal plate buckle is worn, and the pouch belts carry the Bays’ badge on a black patent leather pouch box. The officer’s tunic had gold lace, and the waist and pouch belts are of gold lace, with a silver pouch box, carrying the Austrian eagle. The trousers are close cut overalls of blue, with a broad white stripe, worn over black boots with regimental pattern spurs."
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Patrol Dress
"The blue No 1 patrol dress was modified to combine elements of both regiments. The tunic carries the collar badges of the Bays and has chain mail with the shoulder title ’QDG’ in early English lettering. The officers’ blue patrol jacket has no pockets on the skirt, and the sword is secured by two gold-laced straps from under the tunic. The blue overalls have the Bays’ broad white stripe and are worn over black boots with regimental pattern spurs. The cap is KDG design of blue cloth with a blue velvet stripe and the Austrian eagle as cap badge. The peak of the cap had a broad rim of gold lace for the officers, a thinner band of gold lace for warrant officers, and a plain black peak for all other ranks. The pouch belts for officers are as for full dress, with other ranks wearing a white belt with the Austrian eagle on the buckle."
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Many thanks Felix (and respect for the name)
Must be the "full ceremonial" I was thinking of, ISTR it was a one-off for some reason. Memory may be shaky, I was in Headley at the time, but that's another story!
And what of "Eric"?
Must be the "full ceremonial" I was thinking of, ISTR it was a one-off for some reason. Memory may be shaky, I was in Headley at the time, but that's another story!
And what of "Eric"?
My parents were married around the same time - 1927 ish - and in their wedding photo mum is wearing a head dress/veil thingy just like that. She wore a very racy knee-length dress though!
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Whether the Republicans like it or not, this is going to be a Big Event.
Frankly, I don't begrudge about GBP1 per tax-payer head for something that will life spirits and raise the profile of the RAF and expunge purile celebs from the front pages of the media. Although that may be ironic, Wills and Kate (God willing!) will still be celebs in 40 years time. (Wills, please bring back proper ceremonial dress fro the RAF - perhaps with a proper Cap, field service as headwear, like the calvary, and reintroduce gold stripe on Mess overalls and spurs and...).
I'm working overseas and the level of interest is surprisingly high. Most people assume that Flt t Wales isn't really a proper SAR pilot and I have deelight in disbusing them of this notion.
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Frankly, I don't begrudge about GBP1 per tax-payer head for something that will life spirits and raise the profile of the RAF and expunge purile celebs from the front pages of the media. Although that may be ironic, Wills and Kate (God willing!) will still be celebs in 40 years time. (Wills, please bring back proper ceremonial dress fro the RAF - perhaps with a proper Cap, field service as headwear, like the calvary, and reintroduce gold stripe on Mess overalls and spurs and...).
I'm working overseas and the level of interest is surprisingly high. Most people assume that Flt t Wales isn't really a proper SAR pilot and I have deelight in disbusing them of this notion.
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You'd better be quick, though; BBC News - Private firm to run search and rescue helicopters
A major shake-up of the UK's search and rescue helicopter service has been announced by the government. The 24-hour service will be run by private consortium Soteria from 2012, from 12 bases across the UK.
A major shake-up of the UK's search and rescue helicopter service has been announced by the government. The 24-hour service will be run by private consortium Soteria from 2012, from 12 bases across the UK.