Lossie next?
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Big Up Lossie
Makes an awful lot of sense to close it.
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Lossie will no doubt close.
Way too many GOOD reasons to keep it open in terms of location, weather, low flying on the door step etc.
Oh well it dosent have St Andrews on the door step, and its too far for our Airships to want to come visit!
Yep, doomed
Way too many GOOD reasons to keep it open in terms of location, weather, low flying on the door step etc.
Oh well it dosent have St Andrews on the door step, and its too far for our Airships to want to come visit!
Yep, doomed
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Way too many GOOD reasons to keep it open in terms of location, weather, low flying on the door step
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With Kinloss down I suspect there will be a tactical pause before any decision on Lossie or the Jocks will revolt.
Anyhow surely the best plan is to keep it with Bornado GR4 until about 2016 when that fleet will almost certainly draw-down somewhat. Then Lossie could go on C&M and be developed for the JSF (aka Dave) with the remaining Bornadoes at Marham until that closes circa 2022.
Fantasy basing - you've gotta love it!
Anyhow surely the best plan is to keep it with Bornado GR4 until about 2016 when that fleet will almost certainly draw-down somewhat. Then Lossie could go on C&M and be developed for the JSF (aka Dave) with the remaining Bornadoes at Marham until that closes circa 2022.
Fantasy basing - you've gotta love it!
I thought it was staying open as the JSF/JCA base due to extreme noise levels? Can't see her Majesty allowing them noisy wretched things disturbing the peace at Sandringham?? (ie Marham basing is out).
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Originally Posted by foldingwings
Why? Isn't it usually BLU/BLU when the rest of the living world is YLO/YLO or worse! Goes for its local area low flying too!
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Yes it is BLU a lot but that doesn't account for the days when howling winds terminate flying! Or when ice closes the whole area for a couple of weeks! Plus low flying is a little bit "Cold War", to use the modern vernacular. The logistic chain from the maintenance hub at Marham has a measurable effect on output. And finally, Lossie is a long way from the Army "customer" which makes the whole ALI thing a lot more difficult.
However the decision is not going to be straightforward for the political reasons already outlined above...
Originally Posted by foldingwings
Why? Isn't it usually BLU/BLU when the rest of the living world is YLO/YLO or worse! Goes for its local area low flying too!
Foldie
Yes it is BLU a lot but that doesn't account for the days when howling winds terminate flying! Or when ice closes the whole area for a couple of weeks! Plus low flying is a little bit "Cold War", to use the modern vernacular. The logistic chain from the maintenance hub at Marham has a measurable effect on output. And finally, Lossie is a long way from the Army "customer" which makes the whole ALI thing a lot more difficult.
However the decision is not going to be straightforward for the political reasons already outlined above...
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Army.
I've got a feeling that Kinloss and Lossi will become Pongo land within a few years. That will help the local economy. They may even keep Lossi's flying status for exercises etc. It may be handy when we withdraw from Germany. Oh well, what do I know, I'm only a civvy....
They may even keep Lossie's flying status for exercises etc
However, I agree that Morayshire could easily become squaddie-land. I offer you the following smilies to represent the reactions of the locals:
Neds
Planespotters
Findhorn yachties / Moray golfers
Buckie fishwives
And maybe even Gordonstoun might wish the RAF would come back!
F-35 Noise Levels
F-35 noise levels are a big issue over here in the USA with some communities taking legal action over a perceived threat to property values. Seemingly not everyone enjoys "the sound of freedom" ! The link, relating to a campaign opposing the basing of Air National Guard F-35s at Tucson International Airport, has some test data from USAF sources.
Noise Levels if the F-35 Comes to Tucson International Airport
Noise Levels if the F-35 Comes to Tucson International Airport