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Cuts endanger UK, RAF's Timo Anderson warns

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Old 14th Oct 2010, 14:04
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I wouldn't be so sure - that we will find out on Tuesday that is...

I thought that lots of hints had been dropped, both through the more informed newspapers and the MODs internal briefing sheets, that the document(s?) published on Mon/Tue is/are likely to be paper thin. Lots of high level talk about our place in the future world, strategic direction, etc....

As for most of the fine detail, we will almost certainly have to wait for that. Partly because of the wrangling to the very last minute, partly because there was never enough time to conduct a proper review in the first place.

It has already been stated, although not trumpeted, that a body has been set up (the Defence Reform Unit?), which will, apart from trying to re-organize the internal machinations of the MOD, come out with much of the fine detail - and it has until next Sep I think to complete its work. Dare I say that it will oversee a properly timetabled review? Although information is supposed to be released on a drip feed basis, as it becomes available, rather than everything being announced next Sep with nothing before (shades of death by a thousand cuts?).


So, as possible examples I have made up myself, it might be announced next week that the Tornado fleet will be reduced, but you will have to wait for several months to find out how many Sqns go and which bases are effected/closed. It might be announced next week that the RN surface fleet will be reduced, but with no specifics of which ships and when, etc....

Anyway, we don't have much longer to wait for whatever crumbs of information are forecoming from the government - just don't expect all the answers next Mon/Tue...


All the above is readily available information, and my own interpretation of it - and I don't work in any HQ or Main Building.

Standing by to be corrected by someone who knows better!!
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Old 14th Oct 2010, 14:14
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More DE&S outsourcing then... Isn't this a function the Delivery Team should be doing themselves?
What about RAFSEE?

They came and inspected our aerials every year without fail. OTOH when Decca came to service the radar they came withone man who did not have a certified climber qualifaction, safety-man or a safe system or work.

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Old 14th Oct 2010, 14:34
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dunno if RAFSEE exists any more... or if they had their proverbial wings clipped. Not sure about the future of Henlow either. Pity.
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Old 14th Oct 2010, 15:01
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Jabba, quite. They existed last year as they removed the kit from my unit.
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I suspect that they are going to be data crunching rather than any hands on. If this is the case they will be looking at fault logs and categorising them into systemic or random failures, attributable or non-attributable in terms of who picks up repair costs, trend analysis etc. This used be done by the EA and CSDE and various successor acronyms.

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ensure that they are managed effectively while delivering to the required operational availability.
Got ya. Making sure that they are only serviced if they are likely to get broke if they are not serviced and avoiding the need for annual preventive maintenance.
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When I knew them some nine or ten years ago, BMT were indeed a data crunching organisation. Albeit a very professional organisation and many of their ex-employees are now consultants in their own right working world-wide.

I've never heard of any complaints about BMT or their services from civil operators - but I'm sure its possible that someone could counter that.

From my experience no-one ever really accomplished what CSDE used to do!

The closure of Swanton Mortuary was indeed the end of an era and a sign of things to come.
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Old 14th Oct 2010, 22:20
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We are an Island !

The two most likely ways we are to be attacked are either by Sea or Air. (Not counting the Channel Tunnel)

We still need defence but I would argue that the RAF and Navy are the last to be cut (if our defece should be cut at all).

And incidentally it should be noted that the RAF actually operate Air Sea Rescue !

And who "box-search" the North Sea or English Channel, when ships and people go missing? Yes, the RAF, Royal Navy; and perhaps the most forgotten: Royal National Lifeboat Institute.

So stop cutting our defence forces, or is this another Government move towards the USSE (United Soviet State of Europe); which sadly I feel that we have been allowed to become, as a result Labour have got what they wanted.

Only to find like that having applauded the collapse of the Russian Oppression Communists Bloc; only to find that EU
have just become a replacement for the one the thing we criticised them for.
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Old 15th Oct 2010, 06:38
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Wingtip1234...Where does this frankly 'Bonkers' idea of a European Army come from? There is absolutely no, repeat no, appetite for this across Europe (and I should know, I have spent the last 8 years more or less engaged in this matter in NATO, EU and UK appointments). Europeans are largely constitutionally pacifists (especially the Germans - qv the Kunduz incident Sep 09). The French maintain their distance although now a key member of the NATO military structure and resent - as did de Gaul - any interference in their internal affairs, especially any hint of 'foreign' control of their forces. I recently had a Swiss officer correct me on an operational planning matter during an exercise in Rome. It transpired that his only overseas deployment was to...Dublin, for a 2 week CIMIC course. No, there may be harmonising of legal instruments to aid commerce and societal integration (devised in the 50s to stop the century repeating itself in such graphic horror), but a European Army? Nope, you are simply wrong. Let's get back to saving the RAF and the fundamental principles of air power and forget about, for the moment, our European colleagues. With the exception of the Norwegians, they are all in a similar amount of financial poo as us!

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I see what you mean; http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedoc...ine%20Goal.pdf



A. The 2010 Headline Goal
1. The European Union is a global actor, ready to share in the responsibility for global security. With the adoption by the European Council in December 2003 of the European Security Strategy, it affirmed the role it wants to play in the world, supporting an international order based on effective multilateralism within the UN. In this context of new dangers but also new opportunities, Member States' strong commitment to give the enlarged European Union the tools to make a major contribution to security and stability in a ring of well governed countries around Europe and in the world is stronger than ever. The EU has the civilian and military framework needed to face the multifaceted nature of these new threats. The availability of effective instruments including military assets will often play a crucial role at the beginning of a crisis, during its development and/or in the post conflict phase.
I must learn to read between lines.
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