EU employment Laws v PVR times?
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EU employment Laws v PVR times?
Is it true as a member of the EU we (all members of British HMforces) only require one months notice to leave military employment?. Personally think its not the case or I would have known someone that had done it, and I have not.
Only ask as it came up in a heated crew room debate, with unresolved outcome, and I will be interested to know either way.
sure some of you legal type chaps out there have the answer
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Only ask as it came up in a heated crew room debate, with unresolved outcome, and I will be interested to know either way.
sure some of you legal type chaps out there have the answer
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Under that EU directive,
I know of 2 pilots who had not amortised their flying training/OCU costs, pvr'd giving a months notice, and the number of their solicitor should the 'system' wish to speak to them. They left and there was no admin action taken against them - this was 5 years ago.
I know of 2 pilots who had not amortised their flying training/OCU costs, pvr'd giving a months notice, and the number of their solicitor should the 'system' wish to speak to them. They left and there was no admin action taken against them - this was 5 years ago.
only require one months notice to leave military employment
Wonder how the 'heated crew room debate' will go if exits via compulsory redundancy are at one months notice (or less) ......
If it is like the 90\'s people will be queueing up.
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"the number of their solicitor should the 'system' wish to speak to them"
the name and number would be nice, if MODS allow that is?
the name and number would be nice, if MODS allow that is?
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At Ease - The Armed Forces Bill 2006
This organisation may be helpful - they had a go at changing bonding contracts as below
House of Commons - Armed Forces - Written Evidence
This organisation may be helpful - they had a go at changing bonding contracts as below
House of Commons - Armed Forces - Written Evidence
I don\'t think for one nanosecond they will need any compulsory redundancies. If it is like the 90\'s people will be queueing up
Strictly playing by these rules are, IMHO, the only chance the military has of keeping the good guys and using any redundancy tranches as an opportunity to get rid of the sick, the lazy, the desert dodgers and the 'bed blockers'. Otherwise the average age of those left in will be 40+, all with kids in private education and, amongst the officer corps, will be sqn ldrs and above with no interest in returning to the front line ....
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Since you ask.
well know for their military expertise...
Introduction - Wilkin Chapman Grange Solicitors
That's the legal statutory minimum...its does not apply in most of the public sector, or indeed in quite a lot of the larger companies in the private sector. Nor does it apply in any case where an individual has better contractural terms than the minimum. In essence it's a catchall intended to give basic cover to the low paid in the private sector.
well know for their military expertise...
Introduction - Wilkin Chapman Grange Solicitors
I think the law demands 1 week's pay for each year served. Maybe the armed forces are different?
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Glads speak for your self mate!!
Depends entirely upon which type of grass you are stood on!!
My desk officer spent two years telling me it wasn't any greener, well he was very wrong indeed!!
Depends entirely upon which type of grass you are stood on!!
My desk officer spent two years telling me it wasn't any greener, well he was very wrong indeed!!
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TOFO:
Absolutely. But it hasn't stopped the CS taking a big hit. The packages they were having at fairly low grades (EO, HEO) were very generous by my modest standards. The latest proposals would mean that an SEO would get in the order of a year's pay, whereas a while back it mught have been £100k+ depending on length of service.
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That's the legal statutory minimum...its does not apply in most of the public sector, or indeed in quite a lot of the larger companies in the private sector. Nor does it apply in any case where an individual has better contractural terms than the minimum. In essence it's a catchall intended to give basic cover to the low paid in the private sector.
CG
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I found this link in an older post from a couple of months ago worth a read and a little worrying. If I read this correctly then you may only end up with 3 months pay (Ouch).
The Armed Forces (Redundancy, Resettlement and Gratuity Earnings Schemes) Order 2010
The Armed Forces (Redundancy, Resettlement and Gratuity Earnings Schemes) Order 2010
I think the most significant element is the statement hidden in the explantory memorandum to this order:
The levels of payments are comparable with those more widely available in the public sector, but as a result of HM Treasury requirements, are in most cases, less valuable than existing arrangements. To ease the transition to the new payment levels, interim arrangements will apply to the value of the certain payments. These interim terms will apply to any redundancies falling on 6th April 2010 and ending on 31st March 2013.
For anyone ahveing completed a normal engagement, it reads that 9 months' (basic) pay would be awarded - much better than the 1 week's pay per year of serice (capped at GBP 380 per week).
The levels of payments are comparable with those more widely available in the public sector, but as a result of HM Treasury requirements, are in most cases, less valuable than existing arrangements. To ease the transition to the new payment levels, interim arrangements will apply to the value of the certain payments. These interim terms will apply to any redundancies falling on 6th April 2010 and ending on 31st March 2013.
For anyone ahveing completed a normal engagement, it reads that 9 months' (basic) pay would be awarded - much better than the 1 week's pay per year of serice (capped at GBP 380 per week).