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Old 15th Aug 2010, 15:04
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Quite a good article on the Mail website about the BBMF.

How the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight keeps spitfires and Lancasters in the air | Mail Online
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 16:00
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Wouldn't be too bad an article except for the "Spitfire pilots scrambling during the Battle of Britain" picture which shows Mk1 Hurricanes with two-bladed props . . . . . Probably pre-May 1940!
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I think that if BBMF comes in for the chop post-SDSR then we might as well call it a day for the whole RAF.

BBMF is a permanent memorial to those brave airman and support staff who made the ultimate sacrifice during WWII as well as a reminder to all of the potency of air power.

This year is the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Britain - surely a timely reminder for the government, chiefs of staff and the SDSR team.

'Lest We Forget'
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Old 17th Aug 2010, 09:21
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Very good article never heard of the requirement to cross main roads at 90` for the Lanc.
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Old 17th Aug 2010, 09:45
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'The BBMF costs between 2.5 and 3 million to run, so you can get three of us for one Jonathan Ross,' says Squadron Leader Jeff Hesketh
very good quote - very true and made me laugh.
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Old 17th Aug 2010, 09:50
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I think that if BBMF comes in for the chop post-SDSR then we might as well call it a day for the whole RAF.
It will be sad to see the end of the BBMF. I always look forward to seeing them at various air shows throughout the year. However, I think that if the RAF feel that they can no longer fund the BBMF then that won't be the end of it. Hopefully it will become a charity and we can all chip in to help it.
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It will be sad to see the end of the BBMF
Pleased to note that it is not scheduled to happen.

For the word 'will' substitute 'would be'.

However, I like your sentiment - although I would use stronger language if our elected body could no longer see fit to remember not only the sacrifices made but also how perilously close we came to defeat because they neglected to provide sufficient resources for a strong peacetime air force.
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"> One problem Hawkins and his planners have to take into account is that the Lancaster isn't permitted to fly parallel to motorways or main roads, but must cross straight over them. The aircraft nowadays flies no higher than 1,000ft, and it's liable to cause accidents as drivers stare at it rather than at the road <"

How true!
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 21:07
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well if it comes to a toss up between XH558 and the BBMF as a possible charity, I know I'll be contributing to the BBMF, even though I have given to the Vulcan in the past.

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"> One problem Hawkins and his planners have to take into account is that the Lancaster isn't permitted to fly parallel to motorways or main roads, but must cross straight over them. The aircraft nowadays flies no higher than 1,000ft, and it's liable to cause accidents as drivers stare at it rather than at the road <"

Is this the same rules that caused the Vulcan to miss the runway at Stanley?

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Old 18th Aug 2010, 21:21
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"> One problem Hawkins and his planners have to take into account is that the Lancaster isn't permitted to fly parallel to motorways or main roads, but must cross straight over them. The aircraft nowadays flies no higher than 1,000ft, and it's liable to cause accidents as drivers stare at it rather than at the road <"

How true!
What drivel!

I flew 3 seasons on the Lanc on BBMF and used line features for IP to TGT runs all of the time!

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Old 18th Aug 2010, 21:43
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We used to fly around 1000 feet too simply because we were map reading from point to point. At the time the Tacan had a coupling error so was always 40 deg out.

We could have gone higher but there was no point. As for speed OTOH we once did 250 kts from Colt to Gaydon but that was when most large airfield had a BoB day on the same day in September. It served as a marker to the public; they knew when there should be an airshow or the airshow reminded them of BoB.

Now air shows are simply a summer day's outing.
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 21:52
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well if it comes to a toss up between XH558 and the BBMF as a possible charity,
Surely, they should both be charities. The public purse shouldn't be expected to pay for them.
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VVHA Why shouldn't the public purse pay for something the public want? I'm pretty sure that the 'save BBMF' petition had more than a few names to it earlier this year, and the cost of operating the flight is very cheap compared some other public attractions. Guess you have never been to an event where BBMF appear, as If you had you'd probably not be speaking such Blasphemy
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Old 18th Aug 2010, 23:02
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"> One problem Hawkins and his planners have to take into account is that the Lancaster isn't permitted to fly parallel to motorways or main roads, but must cross straight over them. The aircraft nowadays flies no higher than 1,000ft, and it's liable to cause accidents as drivers stare at it rather than at the road <"

How true!
What drivel!

I flew 3 seasons on the Lanc on BBMF and used line features for IP to TGT runs all of the time!
?? The BBMF aeroplanes are always a distraction, driving or not, the aircrew have been bit players for many years ...

Edit: quotes .. give up.
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Old 20th Aug 2010, 09:17
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Question Schedule - 20/08/2010

The flight is making a tour of the South today, overflying a number of BoB stations. The BBMF internet site does not give detail of route. Can anyone help me with this? I understand that part of the route includes flying from Reading down towards the South Coast. I am hoping that it will pass close to Basingstoke, where I live! Many thanks!
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Old 20th Aug 2010, 10:36
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Hi Newswatcher,

try this link:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/rafcms/me...67BE961698.pdf
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The plot changed! They did this morning's bit yesterday and night stopped at North Weald. They overflew Duxford 30 mins ago and departed - they didn't land as scheduled. I presume they are flying the rest of the morning schedule up to the Biggin Hill stop a bit early. No doubt they will stick to the planned times for the London overflight.

Things at Duxford seemed a bit exciting judging by the radio traffic - they were formating on an Aztec of all things, with another Aztec standing off, presumably with press and TV cameras. Pity about the Aztec - spoiled the picture for me.
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Old 20th Aug 2010, 11:26
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Thanks tilleydog1. Didn't see that link! Looks like they are going over Odiham, then Lasham, on the way down. Guess I will have to make a short drive but, with the weather conditions here now, hope it's worth it!

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Old 20th Aug 2010, 12:27
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Seen this....... seems to have made someones day at least.

FLYER Forums &bull; View topic - Intercepted by Military Fighters
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Old 22nd Aug 2010, 19:08
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Surely, they should both be charities. The public purse shouldn't be expected to pay for them.
VVCH,

Does this mean that we should also add HMS Victory to the list, or sell it to the owners of Alton Towers?

No, I thought not.
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