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Old 21st Jul 2010, 15:35
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I know I'll regret asking this - but curiosity has won. Why wasn't this door moved aft a few feet. As it is, it's all compound curves, interferes with the wheel sponsons, and I'm struggling to see how it works - as a door. And in the other pics, is that a towel rail ADF sense antenna? Shirley not.

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GROWLER sounds a much better nickname....

Sound positively evil!
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 16:01
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Hercules, followed by .............................. Atlas. Does it for me.
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What the the Goblin? Appropriate given what it can swallow (or how much it cost to build).
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 16:20
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A grizzly implies a menacing, dangerous type. this thing looks more like - -

Yogi

Is that a picinic basket I see before me Boo Boo?
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 16:44
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Talking

With regard the door,
surely that's for the para's and the covert boys (and girls) to hit there head off as the leave the aircraft ?
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 17:07
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fallmonk, stop writing nonsense on here, please. And learn to spell FFS.
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 17:21
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Growler?

FJJP. In my world, a growler is a small iceberg or ice floe just large enough to be hazardous for shipping, so any allusion to navigating the Titanic could be unfortunate. It can also be any container used to sell a measured amount of beer so it could also be something like a jug. What price a pair in formation in these emancipated times?
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 18:37
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It appears that the intention of the door is to use the sponson as a step for those exiting the aircraft. In front of it you can also see a flow disrupter.

My concern is the control lock on the rudder being completely ineffective

(I know it's actually a piece of flight test instrumentation)
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 19:13
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OK, got it; if the door's solely for exiting paras.
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 19:49
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Isn't that what I sayed ?

Hey "forget" go get a life , who made you the spelling police ?
And using FFS ! Do you have to reduce yourself to foul language ???
How very adult off you
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 20:07
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Re the para door, when I left the programme they (Airbus) still hadn't figured out how the step (hinged part of the fairing) was going to retract. It should be the first action as the door is unlatched otherwise its going to be a blockage if the door is to be cleared as an emergency exit. The last idea I saw was you opened the door and then unlatched and lowered the step. NO NO NO. I even suggested they should look at the drag penalty of flying with it permanently down to avoid the problem
That said, with the door open and the air deflectors out (they may not be needed, so it might only appear on the prototypes) I reckon the step could be a nice place for sitting out on patio furniture.
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 20:37
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'Does the 'J' have the legs and the role equipment to fill the gap left by the retirement of the 'K'..?'

Err, yes. Outside of the SF role (in which the K continues) and the lone aircraft in the Falklands, the K has done little meaningful tasking for a number of years due to a lack of airframes, the bulk of C130 tasking having been done by the J. The J is now in the Falklands & while it may not have the External tanks it seems to be coping & may get them yet.

When I flew Ks the external tanks were only of so much use - they add weight even before you fill them with fuel, which reduces the load you can carry, particularly when it's hot/ high which is where most of the job is now. Don't recall filling them up much when we flew around the Middle East so they were only so much dead weight.

The J has been here for a decade, and doing a fine job.
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 21:27
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Say it like it is Boss!

Grizzly? Not likely, RAF tells A400M bosses.

But Air Chief Marshal Sir Stephen Dalton, Britain's top air force officer, delivered a blunt veto from the RAF.

"It's absolutely appalling," he told Reuters.

"It has no provenance, no acceptance and it will enter RAF service with that name over my dead body."
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 21:33
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can anyone tell me the purpose of the "roundel" aft of the rear door?
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 21:47
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What about the Epilepsy* CMk1?

* Epilepsy was known as 'Hercules sickness' for over 2000 years because Hercules was known to suffer from it...... Seems apt...
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 21:49
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Say it like it is Boss!

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Grizzly? Not likely, RAF tells A400M bosses.


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But Air Chief Marshal Sir Stephen Dalton, Britain's top air force officer, delivered a blunt veto from the RAF.

"It's absolutely appalling," he told Reuters.

"It has no provenance, no acceptance and it will enter RAF service with that name over my dead body."
Good. At last, someone who appears to have addressed this cringeworthy marketing exercise before it gets completely out of hand. So, the Airbus suits and snake-oil purveyors fall over themselves/slap each other on the back/buy each other big Cuban cigars (delete as appropriate) satisfied that they've got a 'punchy' (yeah, right...) name for the aircraft.
Question to Airbus: When, exactly, was the decision made to drop the previously chosen name of the A400M - Loadmaster?
Surely you can't have 2 names for it, can you? Or is there such a thing as a 'Grizzly Loadmaster?'
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 02:19
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'Grizzly' is the nickname given to the Growler when shooting off and trapping on aircraft carriers - avoids potential mix ups with the heavier 'Prowler' when setting the strain on the cat and the wires. Same as the Super Hornet was nicknamed 'Rhino' (to the chagrin of many a Phantom driver) when at the boat to avoid mix ups with the legacy Hornet.
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 04:05
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Question to Airbus: When, exactly, was the decision made to drop the previously chosen name of the A400M - Loadmaster?
Not sure that decision has even been considered never mind made MM. According to information on these hallowed pages, Grizzly is a nickname that is used by the A400M flight test crews. Seems the press have picked up on it and the story has grown legs.
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Old 22nd Jul 2010, 06:22
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I can just imagine it - the Air Box will have dreamed up some inspiring name such as 'Odysseus', 'Ulysses' or 'Trojan' (don't anyone tell them what that is in American!) and Orders will then be crapped down from On High stating that on no account must the aircraft be referred to as the 'Grizzly'....

Remember, these are the people who wanted to call the Hawk the 'Tercel'...
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