OMG!! What next?
Association of Black Police Officers, Asian Businessman of the Year, Gay Pride, LGBT Conference etc etc etc
All organisations/events that bang on about equality for all yet are firmly 'closed' to everyone who is not part of their small band.
As a white, middle aged hetrosexual male I think I am on the receiving end of far more discrimination than all of these 'groups' put together.
All organisations/events that bang on about equality for all yet are firmly 'closed' to everyone who is not part of their small band.
As a white, middle aged hetrosexual male I think I am on the receiving end of far more discrimination than all of these 'groups' put together.
As a white, middle aged hetrosexual male I think I am on the receiving end of far more discrimination than all of these 'groups' put together.
Just edited to say that I have never approved of minority witch hunts. Saw it for the first time in my life in the RAF when in my mid twenties. The criminalisation of homosexual acts was one of the best examples of unintended consequences since "Lets crucify this prat and he'll be out of our faces for ever!"
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Personally, I have absolutely no issues with what consenting adults do behind closed doors, but I do feel uncomfortable about minority groups and activities being thrust in my face. I don't feel the need to march to express my "pride" in being heterosexual, so why do homosexuals? And, thankfully, I left the RAF before we had publicly funded conferences to promote the issue!
The only thing I object to is that the word gay in the English language has been hijacked. When I were a lad, a gay day conjured up images of a summer afternoon, with birds singing and sun shining on a meadow. Equally, a weekend in Gay Paris was a mucky weekend with a girl, not attendance at a shirtlifters conference.
Would it be too late to simply revert to using the correct terms - homosexuals and lesbians?
The only thing I object to is that the word gay in the English language has been hijacked. When I were a lad, a gay day conjured up images of a summer afternoon, with birds singing and sun shining on a meadow. Equally, a weekend in Gay Paris was a mucky weekend with a girl, not attendance at a shirtlifters conference.
Would it be too late to simply revert to using the correct terms - homosexuals and lesbians?
1.3VStall,
As there's no "arrow" or otherwise to mark support for your post, I shall just register that you have just posted a far better appreciation of the current state of affairs than my, limited capability, could manage.
Smudge
As there's no "arrow" or otherwise to mark support for your post, I shall just register that you have just posted a far better appreciation of the current state of affairs than my, limited capability, could manage.
Smudge
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CLEAR,
"Thud"
Administer 200cc of adrenaline, 50cc of red bull and a double espresso
charge 300
CLEAR.
"Thud"
yes, I have a pulse, I declare this thread well and truly resurrected.
Now, wheres that fit nurse in the short skirt.
wassat, he's a man you say...?
oh it's a kilt, he's from jockistan, never mind, soon be the six nations.
he can fight the frogs for a wooden spoon.
May you all have a lovely time on the fifth - reminiscing about throwing a catholic on the fire and dreaming it was callmeDave. regardless of how you live your private live. Unless your Beagle, who can no doubt regale us with a first hand eyewitness report.
"Thud"
Administer 200cc of adrenaline, 50cc of red bull and a double espresso
charge 300
CLEAR.
"Thud"
yes, I have a pulse, I declare this thread well and truly resurrected.
Now, wheres that fit nurse in the short skirt.
wassat, he's a man you say...?
oh it's a kilt, he's from jockistan, never mind, soon be the six nations.
he can fight the frogs for a wooden spoon.
May you all have a lovely time on the fifth - reminiscing about throwing a catholic on the fire and dreaming it was callmeDave. regardless of how you live your private live. Unless your Beagle, who can no doubt regale us with a first hand eyewitness report.
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"200cc of adrenaline....."
Steady on tiger, little heavy there. 1mg/10mL of adrenaline every other cycle is the current best practice.
And I won't wear a skirt for you no matter how much you pester.
Steady on tiger, little heavy there. 1mg/10mL of adrenaline every other cycle is the current best practice.
And I won't wear a skirt for you no matter how much you pester.
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The 'rights' of differing groups in society is a very interesting thing to me, but also could be a stupid thing. Not long ago it was illegal to be homosexual in the UK. Then via pressure and campaign it became legal. This was boosted by the fact that it is said that ten percent of the population are homosexual.
Not long ago Muslims had few rights in the UK (can you see where this is going) but via pressure and campaign Muslims gained laws (along with other religious or non white groups, take your pick). The establishment of Islam in the Uk has been boosted in the public mind due to the fact that it is a growing religion and a fair percentage of the UK population now follow this religion.
I love the idea that a Muslim can now be covered by law from bigotry and racial harassment, and the only real downside for me is that nearly all large supermarkets serve halal meat in their restaurants (I won't eat it, as it's not compatible with my religion).
But, what could happen when Islam covers more than ten percent of the UK population and demand more respect for their culture? Does this mean that as a larger minority its representatives could then call for homosexuality to become illegal again
Although Islam and Christianity are VERY similar in their teachings, Islam does tend to speak out against homosexuality a lot more.
On a bit of a tangent, if we have black and minority ethnic groups, or gay groups or ginger groups or men's or ladies groups doesn't that mean that each will be pulling for rights and conditions that each group will already have in law?
I'd prefer to see one group for everyone marching through London pointing out that service people get rubbish accommodation and rubbish conditions, and that service camps have to be upgraded to accommodate illegal immigrants (who then burn down the upgraded camps as they are too poor).
Just a few thoughts.
Not long ago Muslims had few rights in the UK (can you see where this is going) but via pressure and campaign Muslims gained laws (along with other religious or non white groups, take your pick). The establishment of Islam in the Uk has been boosted in the public mind due to the fact that it is a growing religion and a fair percentage of the UK population now follow this religion.
I love the idea that a Muslim can now be covered by law from bigotry and racial harassment, and the only real downside for me is that nearly all large supermarkets serve halal meat in their restaurants (I won't eat it, as it's not compatible with my religion).
But, what could happen when Islam covers more than ten percent of the UK population and demand more respect for their culture? Does this mean that as a larger minority its representatives could then call for homosexuality to become illegal again
Although Islam and Christianity are VERY similar in their teachings, Islam does tend to speak out against homosexuality a lot more.
On a bit of a tangent, if we have black and minority ethnic groups, or gay groups or ginger groups or men's or ladies groups doesn't that mean that each will be pulling for rights and conditions that each group will already have in law?
I'd prefer to see one group for everyone marching through London pointing out that service people get rubbish accommodation and rubbish conditions, and that service camps have to be upgraded to accommodate illegal immigrants (who then burn down the upgraded camps as they are too poor).
Just a few thoughts.
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I'm firmly in 1.3VStall's camp on this one.
I heard Will Young on the wireless the other day, bitterly complaining that youngsters have hijacked the word "gay" to mean bad, rubbish, crap etc etc etc.
Excuse me! Who hijacked the word in the first place?
I am not bothered one way or the other about people's relationships, I would rather two people just love each other regardless of gender. What I do object vehemently about is how minorities try and hijack my culture in order to make theirs seem more acceptable to mainstream life. Jury is still out as to whether this is because they feel they are themselves out of step with generally accepted norms or whether they think the rest of us think they are, thus if they use a non contentious word to describe themselves the rest of us won't mind. (e.g using "newspaper" for the Daily Mail).
There will only be true equality when I could enter into a Civil Partnership with a member of the opposite sex, till that happens, LGBT.....SHUT THE F**K UP ABOUT EQUALITY!!!
Soap box back in shed.
DN
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The local council I used to work for actively promoted and contributed to an LGBT week and a black history week in our area. When I asked on our global messaging system if we were going to have a white heterosexual week. I was dragged off (by a very senior person) and advised that if I wanted to keep working for The Council I was to just shut the f**k up and get back in my box
Now THAT'S real equality!!! (Not)
I heard Will Young on the wireless the other day, bitterly complaining that youngsters have hijacked the word "gay" to mean bad, rubbish, crap etc etc etc.
Excuse me! Who hijacked the word in the first place?
I am not bothered one way or the other about people's relationships, I would rather two people just love each other regardless of gender. What I do object vehemently about is how minorities try and hijack my culture in order to make theirs seem more acceptable to mainstream life. Jury is still out as to whether this is because they feel they are themselves out of step with generally accepted norms or whether they think the rest of us think they are, thus if they use a non contentious word to describe themselves the rest of us won't mind. (e.g using "newspaper" for the Daily Mail).
There will only be true equality when I could enter into a Civil Partnership with a member of the opposite sex, till that happens, LGBT.....SHUT THE F**K UP ABOUT EQUALITY!!!
Soap box back in shed.
DN
PS
The local council I used to work for actively promoted and contributed to an LGBT week and a black history week in our area. When I asked on our global messaging system if we were going to have a white heterosexual week. I was dragged off (by a very senior person) and advised that if I wanted to keep working for The Council I was to just shut the f**k up and get back in my box
Now THAT'S real equality!!! (Not)
What with that and a warning before a wildlife TV programme that it contained shots of lions eating prey (A bit on the lines of "Fish - may contain bones), I guess we are going to hell in a hand cart!