Willie or Won't he
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Originally Posted by Trim Stab
You should consider yourselves lucky that you get "diversity training" at the taxpayer's expense.
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OK, I admit it. Mine was a complete waste of Aunty Betty's money. I do have the certificate, though. 
Quite a few smirks in the room at that one.
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Err, this is not the first time that someone on SAR at Valley has done this......is it something to do with the location?
The RAF statement is interesting (as long as they can fly well its ok) - I thought Aircrew were Officers first and therefore had to be capable of leading people - no mention of that! It looks like all we have to do now is be able to fly!
The RAF statement is interesting (as long as they can fly well its ok) - I thought Aircrew were Officers first and therefore had to be capable of leading people - no mention of that! It looks like all we have to do now is be able to fly!
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No problem with people doing this.......until I unwittingly meet one on a date
I agree with epiphany, thought you were given a thorough pyscho screening during selection, I can't help thinking a professional military service is not the right place for a TS.
Plenty of people do not make the grade for aircrew for a variety of reasons.
As someone has said, the sex change process brings about a variety of physical and mental changes, and thats before the Doc wields his scalpel, the process of hormones takes about a year, so the 'cock' pit (sorry) is no place for a pre-op.
Maybe flying a desk is the way forward, in this year of the 70th Anniversary of the Battle of Britain, I don't think RAF pilots image should be sullied in this way..............and, why Ayla?.....where did that come from?
If I went to the bother of ditching the joystick, I'd certainly select a better name.
Now where is my copy of the Daily Mail?
I agree with epiphany, thought you were given a thorough pyscho screening during selection, I can't help thinking a professional military service is not the right place for a TS.
Plenty of people do not make the grade for aircrew for a variety of reasons.
As someone has said, the sex change process brings about a variety of physical and mental changes, and thats before the Doc wields his scalpel, the process of hormones takes about a year, so the 'cock' pit (sorry) is no place for a pre-op.
Maybe flying a desk is the way forward, in this year of the 70th Anniversary of the Battle of Britain, I don't think RAF pilots image should be sullied in this way..............and, why Ayla?.....where did that come from?
If I went to the bother of ditching the joystick, I'd certainly select a better name.
Now where is my copy of the Daily Mail?
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Either the new edition of "Trolling for Internet Tough Guys" is out, or the mental age on this forum is about 12. I hope it's the former.
I am not commenting on the subject of the thread here, but rather on the touchy feely/scared to to upset anyone's feelings attitude that is appearing (among a minority of posters).
Surely the response to the question "have you had all of your diversity training?" is "do you know the taliban would torture (if they got hold of me) me and chop off my head with a sword.....And you are worried I might upset someone's feelings on my own side?....Are you sure your priorities are focussed correctly?"
Just my two penneth (knowing full well that the RAF still has its good share of steely eyed killers/ tough, committed men/women serving)
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Reading the article it seems that he married in 2008 and intends to remain married after the op..
Seems a little confusing for me, will that make them both Lesbians then ?
Bit frightening though, as a she, she is a lot better looking (in the photos) than most of the WRAF's that I served with
Seems a little confusing for me, will that make them both Lesbians then ?
Bit frightening though, as a she, she is a lot better looking (in the photos) than most of the WRAF's that I served with
Barnstormer, welcome to the modern Royal Air Force where niff naff and trivia rule. One wonders what the ledgends of yester-year would say, not about gender re-assignment but the lack of direction and backbone shown in some circles today. It may be a minority on PPrune but is full evident elsewhere.
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Nothing new about it. RAF led the way! With a "ledgend", no less.
Roberta Cowell | The First British Transsexual Story
"Barnstormer, welcome to the modern Royal Air Force where niff naff and trivia rule. One wonders what the ledgends of yester-year would say, not about gender re-assignment but the lack of direction and backbone shown in some circles today."
Roberta Cowell | The First British Transsexual Story
Tourist, not bemoaning the gender re-assignmet chap/chap-ess, rather moaning about the fact the RAF is now seemingly run as a buisness/commercial concern, rather than a war fighting force, a job and no longer a career.
Wrong thread me thinks?! And spelling wuz nevva my strong point...
Wrong thread me thinks?! And spelling wuz nevva my strong point...
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Would it be unreasonable for people who change their sex losing/gaining bodyparts to go back to OASC for more testing/boarding?
When they originally presented at OASC for arguements sake as a man if they had stated in a loud and confident voice that they were in the near future planning to have their penis removed, hormone levels played with and jumper 'lumped' would they have still been snapped up?
So we employed him as a perceived level headed man...who then chooses to change his sex via surgery although the Y chromosome is still present then maybe they should be treated as a new, albeit trained, applicant for total physical and mental reassessment...In competition with all the other females.
When they originally presented at OASC for arguements sake as a man if they had stated in a loud and confident voice that they were in the near future planning to have their penis removed, hormone levels played with and jumper 'lumped' would they have still been snapped up?
So we employed him as a perceived level headed man...who then chooses to change his sex via surgery although the Y chromosome is still present then maybe they should be treated as a new, albeit trained, applicant for total physical and mental reassessment...In competition with all the other females.
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Lets get this straight. Humans cannot change their sex, only their appearance. A persons sex is determined at the point of conception and is irreversible. You can phaff about with hormones but the chromosomes are fixed.
There have been a very small cases of gender dysfunction, normally at puberty and beyond the control of those involved. Theirs is a medical dysfunction, not a lifestyle choice.
There have been a very small cases of gender dysfunction, normally at puberty and beyond the control of those involved. Theirs is a medical dysfunction, not a lifestyle choice.
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And drifting just ever so slightly out of the box, at what point does the TG candidate transition from the Male fitness test to Female (or vice versa!!)
For those struggling to avoid the wrath of the PTI and incurring MAA, it could be a creative, if slightly painful, method of getting into the blue zone for life.
Just a thought.
For those struggling to avoid the wrath of the PTI and incurring MAA, it could be a creative, if slightly painful, method of getting into the blue zone for life.
Just a thought.
"This is wrong. The tragedy is that there are people in the higher reaches of service management without the balls to say so."
Obviously a more common occurrence than you might think then.........
Obviously a more common occurrence than you might think then.........
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Longer answer, it would be illegal.
If a bloke turned up at OASC in a dress he could not be rejected for his dress sense. Now is he got his knickers in a twist . . .
Seriously, PCUK means that anything goes, even mild recreational drug use and spent criminal convictions. Personal feeling do not come in to it. The big problem here, and I mean in this thread, is that you can legislate for equality and human rights but you cannot legislate for what a person thinks.
What a person thinks then, unfortunately, impinges on what they write. While they may assess an individual as a complete **** they may over-compensate in a report to avoid the accusation of bias.
Question: What is the most senior rank that someone who has changed sex yet achieved?
Recent selection for promotion to Wg Cdr I believe.
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I feel sorry for the guy, not the fact he is having it done, it has got to have been a hard question to answer in his mind, but the fact that simply because William is being posted to Valley his face and life is being splashed across the media, any other reason and he could have got on with his life with a bit of privacy....
Wonder if they will let him keep his tadger as a souvenior, may make a nice wallet, rub it a bit and he may be able to use it as an overnight bag
Wonder if they will let him keep his tadger as a souvenior, may make a nice wallet, rub it a bit and he may be able to use it as an overnight bag