PM 'Disrespect' Armed Forces
Check your facts!
"The voting is split equally three ways between Labour MPs and the Labour MEPs, party members and members of affiliated trade unions who have not opted out of paying a political levy." Reuters
"The voting is split equally three ways between Labour MPs and the Labour MEPs, party members and members of affiliated trade unions who have not opted out of paying a political levy." Reuters
I care little in relation to whom is leader of what party and that is for each party under their own internal party rules to decide..
The issue I keep referring back to is HM's Prime Minister.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 45 yards from a tropical beach
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"I think you are confusing Leadership of the Labour Party with Prime Minister of the UK, they are not the same thing."
They surely won't be on May 7th!
They surely won't be on May 7th!
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Age: 84
Posts: 897
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
An outsider looking in!
Well, he's not my PM, so I can say what I like about him being one of a government comprised of more clinically barking-mad people the UK has ever seen. I do think one or two people here might have the wrong view and are confusing loyalty,[and yes, I have one of those parchment thingies!] to an elected PM with personal opinion, and in this regard I'm sure that no one could doubt Beharry is entitled to his! Good on him for expressing his personal affront to a man who has clearly let him and his mates down. I doubt very much if Brown was a aware he been snubbed, because for him to do so would give him a sensitivity he clearly wouldn't understand. It may well have been the convention once upon a time for all of us to avoid embarrassing those in high office, but times have changed, along with the more overt standard of lies inflicted on the armed forces, and in fact the whole country.
I'd like to think I might do what Beharry did, but then every annual assessment I ever had mentioned that I didn't suffer fools gladly!
I'd like to think I might do what Beharry did, but then every annual assessment I ever had mentioned that I didn't suffer fools gladly!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Erehwon
Posts: 1,146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That's the beauty of things like this Samuel.
Someone will have told the tw@t by now - he'll have a shed load of 'assistants' who peruse all manner of media looking for feedback to ensure he can manage the 'next 5 years'.
Plus it's been in the media, but apparently it's not right and the PM respects the Armed Forces immensely - so it's all OK after all.
What a nasty cynical bunch we all are, doubting this great humanitarian, this giant intellect of our time. In fact, it's a privilege for us to have him as leader.
Anyone seen 'Brewster's Millions' - if ever we needed a box on the ballot paper marked "None of the above", it's now.
We'll see . . . mind you any replacement will be a politician, ergo when his/her lips move, they'll be lying.
Someone will have told the tw@t by now - he'll have a shed load of 'assistants' who peruse all manner of media looking for feedback to ensure he can manage the 'next 5 years'.
Plus it's been in the media, but apparently it's not right and the PM respects the Armed Forces immensely - so it's all OK after all.
What a nasty cynical bunch we all are, doubting this great humanitarian, this giant intellect of our time. In fact, it's a privilege for us to have him as leader.
Anyone seen 'Brewster's Millions' - if ever we needed a box on the ballot paper marked "None of the above", it's now.
We'll see . . . mind you any replacement will be a politician, ergo when his/her lips move, they'll be lying.
Last edited by Dengue_Dude; 10th Apr 2010 at 18:50. Reason: Added a bit for sense.
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: On The Road
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
disrepect or disregard - same difference
Somewhere over the gulf not much over a year ago. Mr Brown on a 146 in the same part of the ac facing a Lt Cdr, a (female) army sgt and a RAF Cpl. They were together on a leg that took about an hour and an half.
What did the PM say to his fellow passengers?
Absolutely nothing.
What did the PM say to his fellow passengers?
Absolutely nothing.
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oxon
Age: 66
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The man in question was awarded a VC.
All of you politician/senior officer apologists should take a walk in his boots before you have the bare faced cheek to question him
All of you politician/senior officer apologists should take a walk in his boots before you have the bare faced cheek to question him
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: France 46
Age: 77
Posts: 1,743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm afraid contributors are confusing certain Labour Politicians with people who have normal emotions and concerns. The prime objective to which these Politicians direct all their energies is Political Power and, therefore, all other considerations are subsumed to this end.
In August 1969 the situation in Northern Ireland had deteriorated markedly and Armed Insurrection was a distinct possibility. The Prime Minister (that nice Mr Wilson) was, however, on holiday in the Scilly Isles and did not wish to return to London. I was, therefore, the Co-pilot on a 46 Sqn Andover which flew Mr C to St Mawgan whilst Mr Wilson flew to St Mawgan in a RN Helicopter.
As we were flying Mr C back to London after the Meeting I received on HF a message regarding the situation in NI and that Troops had been deployed to assist the Civil Power. I asked what I considered to be the obvious question and, whilst waiting for the answer, I passed the message back to Mr C.
I was then asked by Mr C a question - but it was not the question I had anticipated. The question to which I had now obtained the answer was "Had there been any Casualties" - to which the answer was No. The Question I was asked was "What time exactly was the request made for Troops to be deployed". Apparently Mr C had been asked before we departed St Mawgan if any request for Troops had been made and had told the Press "No" . He was only concerned with his Political reputation and not with the Troops who had been committed to Active Service in the face of Armed Rebellion.
It would appear that Senior Labour Politicians today adhere to the same concept.
In August 1969 the situation in Northern Ireland had deteriorated markedly and Armed Insurrection was a distinct possibility. The Prime Minister (that nice Mr Wilson) was, however, on holiday in the Scilly Isles and did not wish to return to London. I was, therefore, the Co-pilot on a 46 Sqn Andover which flew Mr C to St Mawgan whilst Mr Wilson flew to St Mawgan in a RN Helicopter.
As we were flying Mr C back to London after the Meeting I received on HF a message regarding the situation in NI and that Troops had been deployed to assist the Civil Power. I asked what I considered to be the obvious question and, whilst waiting for the answer, I passed the message back to Mr C.
I was then asked by Mr C a question - but it was not the question I had anticipated. The question to which I had now obtained the answer was "Had there been any Casualties" - to which the answer was No. The Question I was asked was "What time exactly was the request made for Troops to be deployed". Apparently Mr C had been asked before we departed St Mawgan if any request for Troops had been made and had told the Press "No" . He was only concerned with his Political reputation and not with the Troops who had been committed to Active Service in the face of Armed Rebellion.
It would appear that Senior Labour Politicians today adhere to the same concept.
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Age: 84
Posts: 897
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
GB is a pathological liar, [as was/is Blair] and as most of the rest of us aren't, why should we bow to the conformity of being courteous to such a buffoon? I doubt the VC winner is into such niceties, he simply sees it that here was a man who has lied, continuously, about what he has not done for the Armed Forces of Britain, and decide he would do possibly the only thing available to him and that was to treat him with the contempt he deserves.
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Hants
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Serving members of the armed forces should hold tehemselves aloof from political comment, but when the despicable attempt to make political capital out of their betters by assuming some sort of virtue by association, then they place themselves beyond the pale.
Well done L/Cpl B - we can learn from this that moral courage is as important (and rare) as physical. If GB had read his Kipling he would remember:
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
Well done L/Cpl B - we can learn from this that moral courage is as important (and rare) as physical. If GB had read his Kipling he would remember:
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Horsham, England, UK. ---o--O--o---
Posts: 1,185
Received 4 Likes
on
2 Posts
Unfortunately, this PM hasn't earnt any respect!
It you'd like to give him a virtual slapping - Slap away!
Slapometer
It you'd like to give him a virtual slapping - Slap away!
Slapometer
