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Canberra Asymmetric
SE handling has had an airing and I thought it might be interesting to quote from EE's (Roneod foolscap) Provisional Pilot's Notes for the B6 and PR7. Safety speed was given as 160kt and you were informed that with an EFATO at weights below about 33000lb control could be maintained at 'as low as 135kt'. For the approach, 'after turning on to finals reduce speed to 125kt and lower the flaps'. Going round again 'can be done comfortably provided that the speed is at least 125kt. . . . In an emergency, and at light weights, going round is possible from speeds down to 110kt. . . . About 200ft of height will be lost during the period while the aircraft is accelerating to 120kt.' It helpfully added that 'The rolling motion due to yaw is pronounced.' Struth!
OCU margins were safer and we had all flown Meteors first, even if it was just 30 hours of knee-trembling on the Short Asymmetric Course at Worksop. When told at Bassingbourn to go round (no pre-flight briefing for it of course), I used the Meteor 'bunt-accelerate-climb' technique - wrong! 'Just use enough power to climb away, about 7000 will do.' Had Vmca been invented? All I remember were Safety Speed, which was in PN, and Crit Speed, which your instructor discovered on Ex 1 and seemed to depend largely on how well-adjusted your rudder-pedals were and how rigid was the sole of your boot. Beyond a certain point weren't you just twisting torque-tubes anyway?
And please don't be nasty about John Stanley! He was of his time and, if it was good enough for John, it really was good enough.
OCU margins were safer and we had all flown Meteors first, even if it was just 30 hours of knee-trembling on the Short Asymmetric Course at Worksop. When told at Bassingbourn to go round (no pre-flight briefing for it of course), I used the Meteor 'bunt-accelerate-climb' technique - wrong! 'Just use enough power to climb away, about 7000 will do.' Had Vmca been invented? All I remember were Safety Speed, which was in PN, and Crit Speed, which your instructor discovered on Ex 1 and seemed to depend largely on how well-adjusted your rudder-pedals were and how rigid was the sole of your boot. Beyond a certain point weren't you just twisting torque-tubes anyway?
And please don't be nasty about John Stanley! He was of his time and, if it was good enough for John, it really was good enough.
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Oxmoor Disaster
Not sure if it appropriate to resurrect an old thread. Mods please delete post if you see fit. From our Huntingdon Council magazine an appeal for information. (I am not involved at all just passing on the message). the Council are considering a memorial some 40 years on. (3rd May 1977). Anyone who feels the need please mail Natasha *** pierson at huntingdontown *** gov *** uk. 01480 410384.
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Hi Brian,
The article does not state specifically.
"Memorial area near to the site of the accident to remember the lives lost and pay respect to the families whose lives were effected by the tragedy"
My interpretation is both.
Link here but No 69 with a very nice pick of HM on front cover not available at the moment.
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My own view for what it is worth. - Any memorial up there will soon be vandalised.
The article does not state specifically.
"Memorial area near to the site of the accident to remember the lives lost and pay respect to the families whose lives were effected by the tragedy"
My interpretation is both.
Link here but No 69 with a very nice pick of HM on front cover not available at the moment.
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My own view for what it is worth. - Any memorial up there will soon be vandalised.
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When I lived at Ramsey and served at Wyton, the Oxmoor Estate was 'well-known'.
Unless it's changed much, sadly I suspect your observation is likely to happen. I must confess to being baffled frankly, why now? With everything else going on in the country/world I'm surprised they're contemplating this.
When I was Deputy SFSO at Wyton, I gave a presentation on that accident. We then wrote an exercise scenario to test the Crash and Disaster Plan, sadly when I was returning from a Tristar trip from the Gulf, I was stuck in the traffic jam caused by our scenario coming to fruition which was sadly fatal too.
Unless it's changed much, sadly I suspect your observation is likely to happen. I must confess to being baffled frankly, why now? With everything else going on in the country/world I'm surprised they're contemplating this.
When I was Deputy SFSO at Wyton, I gave a presentation on that accident. We then wrote an exercise scenario to test the Crash and Disaster Plan, sadly when I was returning from a Tristar trip from the Gulf, I was stuck in the traffic jam caused by our scenario coming to fruition which was sadly fatal too.
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The Oxmoor Canberra
LD (Nav) was a good friend of mine and I can well remember the squadron fury at photos of his body on fire in a gutter being printed by a national newspaper. After our protest the photographer GG again printed them in the Am Phot to serve the "public interest"
It was especially poignant for me because LL had survived a similar event with me by selecting a lucky pilot that day
Turning to a memorial. LL was an orphan but he did have a girl friend, there is limited scope for family involvement. I remember the pilot having a family and being very much involved in RAF motor sport
I think the long lapse of time would display this effort as rather late, see Rudyard Kipling, the ballad of Tommy atkins
It was especially poignant for me because LL had survived a similar event with me by selecting a lucky pilot that day
Turning to a memorial. LL was an orphan but he did have a girl friend, there is limited scope for family involvement. I remember the pilot having a family and being very much involved in RAF motor sport
I think the long lapse of time would display this effort as rather late, see Rudyard Kipling, the ballad of Tommy atkins
