OASC 'CANDIDATES' and WANNABES, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD FIRST!
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.....that if I turned them down this year to apply for pilot again it would be no problem...
If that's what you've always wanted and have the medical and aptitude to do it then go for it, don't accept anything else!
.....that if I turned them down this year to apply for pilot again it would be no problem...
If that's what you've always wanted and have the medical and aptitude to do it then go for it, don't accept anything else!
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Hope your young enough.... I scored 160 for pilot, 145 for Nav when I went through. I was a 26 year old JT at the time! Someone seemed to have tattoed 'ENGINEER' across my forehead.
Ah well, I fly for fun and that does me for now!
TBK
Ah well, I fly for fun and that does me for now!
TBK
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I used to be connected to OASC and to be honest in todays climate anything below 140 wouldn't usually be considered unless your part two was excellent.
I got in as WSO with 107!!! and the competetive mark was 120 in those days.
My pilot score was 164, it just goes to show that it's what slots they have a need to fill on the day. I think it's all down to luck!
I wish you all the best and hope you get what you want. However if they offer you WSO, I would take it. A few of my course mates on IOT and NAv training transfered from WSO to Pilot on IOt and one on the first week of Nav training. Anything is possible.
I got in as WSO with 107!!! and the competetive mark was 120 in those days.
My pilot score was 164, it just goes to show that it's what slots they have a need to fill on the day. I think it's all down to luck!
I wish you all the best and hope you get what you want. However if they offer you WSO, I would take it. A few of my course mates on IOT and NAv training transfered from WSO to Pilot on IOt and one on the first week of Nav training. Anything is possible.
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I hope it goes well for you. However I have to agree that 128 may not be a good enough score in the current climate. (right time and place means an awful lot). If it isn't then give anything else your best shot.
In Part 2 the individual problem carries an awful lot of weight, so if your self analysis is OK, you should feel pleased with yourself.
This forum is full of all the people who like to moan (and they are entitled to if they want ), but in the end if you treat it as a job and career and accept that it may not be lifelong (except for the very few) then you could be very satisfied.
Good Luck, and well done for sharing your hopes and experiences.
UNM
In Part 2 the individual problem carries an awful lot of weight, so if your self analysis is OK, you should feel pleased with yourself.
This forum is full of all the people who like to moan (and they are entitled to if they want ), but in the end if you treat it as a job and career and accept that it may not be lifelong (except for the very few) then you could be very satisfied.
Good Luck, and well done for sharing your hopes and experiences.
UNM
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I'm one of those people that unfortunately used to be connected to OASC too and to be honest if you're positive when you're there it goes a long way towards the end result. The main people they don't want is people that turn up thinking they already are pilots! As for branch choice, I'm not convinced it's as easy to cross over at iot now, especially with such a shortage of aircrew places but you never know! Good luck and hopefully you'll soon be enjoying the 'delights' of iot!
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In my experience, if you REALLY don't want to be anything other than pilot, don't join up as anything else expecting to get crossed-over. I commissioned as a nav in 2000 and it took me 4 and a half yrs to cross-over (and that was a fluke quite frankly). Having said that, I never regretted a moment...
On the x-over thing, I tried during and after IOT (having had a very good IOTC) and OASC sent me a very snotty reply which said (in precis) that THEY were the selection experts and that their original logic of selection still remained (I scored 165 for pilot). Don't believe anyone who suggests joining as one thing and then branch-changing at IOT - you could and probably will get your finers burnt.
Whatever you do, good luck and stay positive.
PS
On the x-over thing, I tried during and after IOT (having had a very good IOTC) and OASC sent me a very snotty reply which said (in precis) that THEY were the selection experts and that their original logic of selection still remained (I scored 165 for pilot). Don't believe anyone who suggests joining as one thing and then branch-changing at IOT - you could and probably will get your finers burnt.
Whatever you do, good luck and stay positive.
PS
Errr.....
I must have missed a stage of my OASC experience.
Nobody ever told me what score I got, and certainly never told me that I was better/worse than anyone else (I've heard several people claim to have the highest ever aptitude scores!).
I must have done alright though.
BV
Nobody ever told me what score I got, and certainly never told me that I was better/worse than anyone else (I've heard several people claim to have the highest ever aptitude scores!).
I must have done alright though.
BV
The only thing I remember was my letter a week after OASC telling me I'd made it.
The funny thing is I got the letter from the medics saying 'since you have been succesful you are now required to attend for part 2 medical......etc' about two weeks before the official congratulations letter.
It's not like medics to be so efficient in my experience!
BV 
The funny thing is I got the letter from the medics saying 'since you have been succesful you are now required to attend for part 2 medical......etc' about two weeks before the official congratulations letter.
It's not like medics to be so efficient in my experience!
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keep pluggin away
Dont know how old you are Lord Flash, but dont give up. I agree that 128 in the current climate probs not good enough to get selected. I am very fortunate, I am ex WSOp and at 29 did the cross over to Pilot, witha score of 169 out of 180. I have just finished EFT at Wyton, and awaiting streaming, so basically never give up of getting to where you want to get to.
As for IOT, not a chance of changing branches at or after IOT, the RAF basically has enough people coming through the doors to fill the slots.
I only managed to change from SNCO aircrew to Pilot under a new scheme the RAF intoduced a couple of years ago allowing SNCO aircrew to apply up to age of 31. This is when they needed pilots. but not sure they still aloow it as the climate changed.
Anyway good luck with it all!
As for IOT, not a chance of changing branches at or after IOT, the RAF basically has enough people coming through the doors to fill the slots.
I only managed to change from SNCO aircrew to Pilot under a new scheme the RAF intoduced a couple of years ago allowing SNCO aircrew to apply up to age of 31. This is when they needed pilots. but not sure they still aloow it as the climate changed.
Anyway good luck with it all!
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OASC 'CANDIDATES' and WANNABES, PLEASE READ THIS THREAD FIRST!
I didn't get given my score for Pilot either . . . . . .
Did get asked if I had understood the instructions for the FC / ATC tests as my score would indicate otherwise . . . .
Think it was OASC that one of the staff asked someone
"Got you aptitude test results back. Please tell me you haven't driven up here have you Sir !?"?"
Always makes me laugh thinking of that one . . ..
Did get asked if I had understood the instructions for the FC / ATC tests as my score would indicate otherwise . . . .
Think it was OASC that one of the staff asked someone
"Got you aptitude test results back. Please tell me you haven't driven up here have you Sir !?"?"
Always makes me laugh thinking of that one . . ..
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A very respectable number of rotary crewmen have recently crossed over to pilot and are doing well for themselves BUT with regard to it being a good back door - I would say no way.
First, once you're in you really need there to be no shortage of people to do your job AND do well/be competitive at pilot selection rather than just the latter.
Secondly, they got crossovers because they were high calibre candidates for officer & pilot training and had proved themselves in their previous jobs doing very well cause they enjoyed and WANTED to do it; if you become a WSOp to get in you WILL work very hard, get shafted and overstretched and if its not something you want to do really then you won't 'enjoy' it or do well so you're likely to make yourself into the kind of person who won't pass a commisioning board.
Finally, an overall warning on 'game plans' to get in as pilot. who can win a game which has constantly changing rules?
First, once you're in you really need there to be no shortage of people to do your job AND do well/be competitive at pilot selection rather than just the latter.
Secondly, they got crossovers because they were high calibre candidates for officer & pilot training and had proved themselves in their previous jobs doing very well cause they enjoyed and WANTED to do it; if you become a WSOp to get in you WILL work very hard, get shafted and overstretched and if its not something you want to do really then you won't 'enjoy' it or do well so you're likely to make yourself into the kind of person who won't pass a commisioning board.
Finally, an overall warning on 'game plans' to get in as pilot. who can win a game which has constantly changing rules?
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A lot of this is uninformed rubbish (Not that I'm informed any better!)
As regards 128 Pilot aptitude being uncompetitive - well, I just got in with 132, so make of that what you will.
The board presidents narrative carries infinitely more weight.
As regards 128 Pilot aptitude being uncompetitive - well, I just got in with 132, so make of that what you will.
The board presidents narrative carries infinitely more weight.
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OASC now debrief you on your aptitude scores and have done for a year or so.
There's nothing you can do about your score now, and frankly a high score doesn't necessarily mean you'll do well in flying training. OASC are well aware of this so if you impressed them elsewhere you may well be in with a chance.
Don't be too concerned about about people quoting all sorts of figures for their test results (and that is not in any way implicit towards previous posters!). A man I know had 158 described as a "wonderful aptitude package" on his OASC report, "wonderful" not being a word they use to regularly i would imagine. He completed EFT with all sorties except for 3 being high average or above, mostly above average.
In the current climate, either side of OASC, Linton, Valley etc. the rumour mill is rife with horror stories. You can't do more than show up, be yourself and do your best.
Good luck!
GF
There's nothing you can do about your score now, and frankly a high score doesn't necessarily mean you'll do well in flying training. OASC are well aware of this so if you impressed them elsewhere you may well be in with a chance.
Don't be too concerned about about people quoting all sorts of figures for their test results (and that is not in any way implicit towards previous posters!). A man I know had 158 described as a "wonderful aptitude package" on his OASC report, "wonderful" not being a word they use to regularly i would imagine. He completed EFT with all sorties except for 3 being high average or above, mostly above average.
In the current climate, either side of OASC, Linton, Valley etc. the rumour mill is rife with horror stories. You can't do more than show up, be yourself and do your best.
Good luck!
GF
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I can only agree whole-heartedly with G-F. Be yourself. Nothing more, nothing less. If you are right you will do well.
Enjoy - If you are right - You will!!
Good luck
Enjoy - If you are right - You will!!
Good luck
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Out of curiosity chaos and chapesses - how many times did it take for you to get through OASC?
I undertook a station visit to Leuchars not too long ago and virtually all there took 3 attempts. How does this fare with people here??
Cheers all
BC
I undertook a station visit to Leuchars not too long ago and virtually all there took 3 attempts. How does this fare with people here??
Cheers all
BC
How many?!
Just the once for me.
I do recall meeting a guy at Grantham who told me that no one makes it through first time and that you need to do it a couple of times to get the hang of it!
It was his fourth trip. And funny thing is, I haven't seen him since!
Maybe it was because he's ginger!
BV
I do recall meeting a guy at Grantham who told me that no one makes it through first time and that you need to do it a couple of times to get the hang of it!
It was his fourth trip. And funny thing is, I haven't seen him since!
Maybe it was because he's ginger!
BV
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Hi everyone
new member - totally scared about OASC in 4 weeks and looking for some useful advice!!I have the current affairs and bleep test under control as i'm a long distance runner.
My pain problems are praticing for apptiutude tests - so if anyone can recommend anything - and anything that can help with problem solving abilities!!!
I';m applying for Provost/ flight operations - so please help a very scared young lady.
Also i am running the bew york marasthon this weekend - so please be nice and help a girl with tired legs!!!
new member - totally scared about OASC in 4 weeks and looking for some useful advice!!I have the current affairs and bleep test under control as i'm a long distance runner.
My pain problems are praticing for apptiutude tests - so if anyone can recommend anything - and anything that can help with problem solving abilities!!!
I';m applying for Provost/ flight operations - so please help a very scared young lady.
Also i am running the bew york marasthon this weekend - so please be nice and help a girl with tired legs!!!