Pontius Navigator

That would gross to about 600 per year. Given the number of IOT courses and the numbers on each course this would appear to be too high. Nearer 400 might be right. That would give 120 pilots into training and 24 navs. Engineer numbers would be quite high as would admin and supply. You can get a better feel by finding the graduation lists for that period.

Flik Roll

Sarah,

You may be on the short side as the majority of people under 5'5" struggled with the anthro side of things, especially in the functional reach (arms) department. No harm in giving it a go though. The measurements have been posted on here before so have a search but it will be a tad difficult to accurately measure your buttock - knee height

Height: 1575mm-1905mm
Weight: 56.6kg-96.5kg
Functional reach: 720mm min
Sitting height: 865mm-990mm
Buttock-knee: 560-660mm
Buttock-heel: 1000-1200mm

May have changed slightly.... they are from '05! I'm struggling to find anything more recent. But gives you an idea. Weight minima has gone up. I'm sure there's someone out there with a more recent medical who can copy out what's on the green bit of paper.....

ElSupremo

A quick question about OASC...

If a candidate passes OASC successfully how long after does the 'full' training start? Can the cadet choose (within limits obviously) as to when he/she can start?

airborne_artist

Yes, though you probably have to start within 12 months of passing OASC.

ElSupremo

Thanks AA. Do you know of any website which explains in detail the ins and outs of the RAF and/or Navy training for pilots? I appreciate that the info is out there somewhere but all I can find is the Navy website which offers only a very general overview.

I'm curious/excited to know what the training involves.

Pontius Navigator

Big Cheese, it took me a total of 0.48 seconds plus wait time to find what you wanted to know. You may already have been there but you cannot get better than the official sites telling you what is what.

All you will get on pprune is people who have done it and can tell you it is hard work - for some - and that many are chopped.

zola403uk

Hello everyone!.. thank you for reading. I feel slightly over awed in amongst all you RAF Aircrew and no how important your time is and feel slightly stupid asking but you have to start somewhere and I guess most of you were once in my position. Anyway.

I have got my aptitude test on Wednesday morning and I maybe looking into things too much but I was just wanting people's advice on whether to wear my brown suit (the only one i have) or buy a new grey/black one or even just go in casual clothing?

Thanks

dave_perry

Hi there Guys,

Earlier in the year I was turned down for pilot in the RAF, due to my legs being 14mm too long!! After much research I am still yet to find out which jet is the most restrictive. I have inquired to the Royal Navy as to be being a pilot there, and they have said Yes; now applying in February. I am hoping to get a provisional offer before my A-Level results. If the smallest cockpit turns out to the Hawk, then obviously Harrier flying is out too, but if the Typhoon or Tornado, then the opportunity still exists for FJ flying in the RN.

Can anyone help me with this and guide me in the right direction as to what the restrictive aircraft is. Any replies, very welcome.

Thanks

Dave

Flik Roll

My bold.

Navy don't fly Typhoon or Tornado..... if you can't fit in the hawk you can't fly FJ full stop because you won't be able to do AFJT or TWU.

Best bet is rotary and the RN usually will see if you will fit for rotary then just have you as rotary only so I was told by a friend who was too tall for jets. IIRC Harrier is tightest fit. We got a copy of all measurements for each a/c the RAF operate at a medical but I don't have to hand any more I'm afraid.

XV1979

Hi,

In my experience a new grey or navy pin striped suit as first impressions are everything, it wont have to be an expensive one just looks like you have made the effort and a suit always comes in handy. It may help you feel more confident and comfortable knowing you are correctly dressed, take your brown one for the evenings in the bar.

F

XV1979

Hi,

In my experience a new grey or navy pin striped suit as first impressions are everything, it wont have to be an expensive one just looks like you have made the effort and a suit always comes in handy. It may help you feel more confident and comfortable knowing you are correctly dressed, take your brown one for the evenings in the bar.

F

airborne_artist

Is this really an aptitude test - AFAIK they only take place at OASC, or is it in fact a session at the recruiting office? If the latter then any reasonable suit is fine - so long as it's pressed, the shoes are clean and the hair is tidily cut.

Uglyhank

Hey guys, im applying to the RAF as an ict specialist, but am thinking about putting pilot on my form because its ideally my dream job. However i am unsure wether i will make it or not because i have never done anything like DoE or been in the cadets, but i have played in football teams etc and even recently had to step up and manage and lead a small restaurant as a head chef. This has shown me that i have good leadership skills but fear that my lack of involvement in things such as DoE will put a stop to my application. Any ideas of the type of things they really look for? il list all the things i have done which i think are worthy if someone asks :P

dave_perry

All you can do, at the end of the day, is try your best. If Pilot is your 'dream job' put that as your first choice. There's no point in going into something that is your second preference just because you doubt yourself. Go to OASC for pilot, with the intention of having the other branches to fall back on. Show confidence in there though! If they pick up that you have self doubt, they won't entertain you...however there's a fine line between arrogance and confidence.

Good Luck all the same!

Dave

muppetofthenorth

I think I'm right in saying that you can't apply for a Non-Commissioned branch [ICT Specialist] while simultaneously applying for an Officer Branch [Pilot] so it's worth making sure you have all the right requirements for Pilot before you plunge in.

Then, be prepared to be asked why, if you're applying for Pilot, you're not considering other Officer branches.

Pontius Navigator

Uglyhank, aside from many other comments about your first post, ICT Specialist?

<<ICT Specialists are responsible for maintaining and repairing a wide range of complex systems from long-range search radar to aircraft mission and ground support systems, airfield navigation aids to local area networks. Each of these plays a vital part in processing and communicating the information needed to support effective air operations on a global scale.>>

Sounds good except, as mentioned, this is not a job for an officer. The entry quals are below those for a commission and as a comissioned officer the nearest would be as a Communications Engineer for which a degree or other qualification in electronics would probably be required.

You need to set out your qualifications then research the jobs that fit, or getthe additional quals that you need.

DJBowl

Evening all,

Just thought I should post, I have been a long time lurker.

I have just recieved my conformation letter for IOT 15. Unfortunatly I was unsucsessful in my application for WSO despite getting 137 on the apptitude testing. I have however been successful for my 2nd choice Fighter Control Branch.

I am a little disappointed that I will never become aircrew but I am still delighted that I am to be an RAF officer.

Now I have to wait until Jan 4th.

Dave

airborne_artist

Dave - have you tried applying to the Royal Navy as Observer (same funtion as WSO)? You'd get a place on that score.

Much nicer location for IOT, as well....

ricster

Just had my feedback from there University Air Squadron. Told that I was on the reserve squadron but in the top 3 and I've been told to get my medical forms done as soon as possible and to turn up to a town night.

I'm not actually on the squadron but I have mixed feelings(happy and sad).
Has anyone been in this same postion and made it onto the squadron?

Ric

craigJ

Just to let all on here know that after my disappointment in going DE last summer; I've just been accepted onto UWAS. Thank you for your continued input on this thread... it's been invaluable

Craig